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Motive Behind Warming Scare

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#1 Chris

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Posted 29 March 2016 - 02:54 PM

Another Climate Alarmist Admits Real Motive Behind Warming Scare

 

“One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with the environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole,” said Edenhofer, who co-chaired the U.N.’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change working group on Mitigation of Climate Change from 2008 to 2015.

 

So what is the goal of environmental policy?

 

“We redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy,” said Edenhofer.

 

The plan is to allow Third World countries to emit as much carbon dioxide as they wish — because, as Edenhofer said, “in order to get rich one has to burn coal, oil or gas” — while at the same time restricting emissions in advanced nations. This will, of course, choke economic growth in developed nations, but they deserve that fate as they “have basically expropriated the atmosphere of the world community,” he said. The fanaticism runs so deep that one professor has even suggested that we need to plunge ourselves into a depression to fight global warming.

 

http://www.investors...-warming-scare/

 

 


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Posted 30 March 2016 - 06:03 PM

And now for today's contribution........

 

Alarmist Assertion #4

 

“Sea Levels Rising – Warmer temperatures are causing glaciers and polar ice sheets to melt, increasing the amount of water in the world’s seas and oceans.”

 

The Facts

The pace of sea level rise remained relatively constant throughout the 20th century, even as global temperatures gradually rose. There has similarly been no increase in the pace of sea level rise in recent decades. Utilizing 20th century technologies, humans effectively adapted to global sea level rise. Utilizing 21st century technologies, humans will be even better equipped to adapt to global sea level rise.

Also, the alarmist assertion that polar ice sheets are melting is simply false. Although alarmists frequently point to a modest recent shrinkage in the Arctic ice sheet, that decline has been completely offset by ice sheet expansion in the Antarctic. Cumulatively, polar ice sheets have not declined at all since NASA satellite instruments began precisely measuring them 35 years ago.

 

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#3 The Average Joe

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Posted 31 March 2016 - 01:24 PM

Major players on the AGW scare in their own words:

 

A remark from Maurice Strong, who organized the first U.N. Earth Climate Summit (1992) in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil revealed the real goal: “We may get to the point where the only way of saving the world will be for industrialized civilization to collapse.”

 

Former U.S. Senator Timothy Wirth (D-CO), then representing the Clinton-Gore administration as U.S undersecretary of state for global issues, addressing the same Rio Climate Summit audience, agreed: We have got to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic policy and environmental policy.” (Wirth now heads the U.N. Foundation which lobbies for hundreds of billions of U.S. taxpayer dollars to help underdeveloped countries fight climate change.)

 

Also speaking at the Rio conference, Deputy Assistant of State Richard Benedick, who then headed the policy divisions of the U.S. State Department said: “A global warming treaty [Kyoto] must be implemented even if there is no scientific evidence to back the [enhanced] greenhouse effect.”

 

In 1988, former Canadian Minister of the Environment, told editors and reporters of the Calgary Herald:“No matter if the science of global warming is all phony…climate change [provides] the greatest opportunity to bring about justice and equality in the world.”

 

 

In 1996, former Soviet Union President Mikhail Gorbachev emphasized the importance of using climate alarmism to advance socialist Marxist objectives: The threat of environmental crisis will be the international disaster key to unlock the New World Order.”

 

Speaking at the 2000 U.N. Conference on Climate Change in the Hague, former President Jacques Chirac of France explained why the IPCC’s climate initiative supported a key Western European Kyoto Protocol objective: “For the first time, humanity is instituting a genuine instrument of global governance, one that should find a place within the World Environmental Organization which France and the European Union would like to see established.”

 

And here is what the scientists behind the IPCC say. Note that the first two contradictory statements are from the sane scientists.

 

“…there is evidence of an emerging pattern of climate response to forcings by greenhouse gases and sulphate aerosols…from geographical, seasonal and vertical patterns of temperature change…These results point towards human influence on climate.”

 

“Estimates of…natural variability are critical to the problem of detecting an anthropogenic [human] signal…We have estimated the spectrum…from paleo-temperature proxies and compared it with…general [climate] circulation models…none of the three estimates of the natural variability spectrum agree with each other…Until…resolved, it will be hard to say, with confidence, that an anthropogenic climate signal has or has not been detected.”

 

The late Stephen Schneider,, serving as a lead author for important parts of three sequential IPCC reports. In a quotation published in Discover, he said:

“On the one hand, as scientists we are ethically bound to the scientific method, on the other hand, we are not just scientists, but human beings as well. And like most people, we’d like to see the world a better place, which in this context translates into our working to reduce the risk of potentially disastrous climatic change. To do that, we need to get some broad-based support, to capture the public’s imagination. That, of course, entails getting loads of media coverage. So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little mention of the doubts we might have. Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest.”

 

Kevin Trenberth, a lead author of 2001 and 2007 IPCC report chapters, writing in a 2007 “Predictions of Climate” blog appearing in the science journal Nature.com, admitted:

“None of the models used by the IPCC are initialized to the observed state and none of the climate states in the models correspond even remotely to the current observed state”.

 

Here's what the alarmists were saying privately to each other about getting rid of opposing views and troubles with their own science.

 

Jones wanted to make sure that people who supported this connection be represented in IPCC reviews:

Getting people we know and trust [into IPCC] is vital – hence my comment about the tornadoes group.”

 

Raymond Bradley, co-author of Michael Mann’s infamously flawed hockey stick paper which was featured in influential IPCC reports, took issue with another article jointly published by Mann and Phil Jones, stating:

“I’m sure you agree–the Mann/Jones GRL [Geophysical Research Letters] paper was truly pathetic and should never have been published. I don’t want to be associated with that 2000 year reconstruction.”

 

Trenberth associate Tom Wigley of the National Center for Atmospheric Research wrote:

“Mike, the Figure you sent is very deceptive … there have been a number of dishonest presentations of model results by individual authors and by IPCC …”

 

Wigley and Trenberth suggested in another e-mail to Mann:

“If you think that [Yale professor James] Saiers is in the greenhouse skeptics camp, then, if we can find documentary evidence of this, we could go through official [American Geophysical Union] channels to get him ousted [as editor-in-chief of the Geophysical Research Letters journal].”

 

A July 2004 communication from Phil Jones to Michael Mann referred to two papers recently published in Climate Research with a “HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL” subject line observed:

“I can’t see either of these papers being in the next IPCC report. Kevin [Trenberth] and I will keep them out somehow—even if we have to redefine what the peer review literature is.” 

 

A June 4, 2003 e-mail from Keith Briffa to fellow tree ring researcher Edward Cook at the Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory in New York stated:

“I got a paper to review (submitted to the Journal of Agricultural, Biological and Environmental Sciences), written by a Korean guy and someone from Berkeley, that claims that the method of reconstruction that we use in dendroclimatology (reverse regression) is wrong, biased, lousy, horrible, etc…If published as is, this paper could really do some damage…It won’t be easy to dismiss out of hand as the math appears to be correct theoretically… I am really sorry but I have to nag about that review—Confidentially, I now need a hard and if required extensive case for rejecting.”

 

Tom Crowley, a key member of Michael Mann’s global warming hockey team, wrote:

I am not convinced that the ‘truth’ is always worth reaching if it is at the cost of damaged personal relationships.”

 

Several e-mail exchanges reveal that certain researchers believed well-intentioned ideology trumped objective science. Jonathan Overpeck, a coordinating lead IPCC report author, suggested:

The trick may be to decide on the main message and use that to guid[e] what’s included and what is left out.”

 

Phil Jones wrote:

Basic problem is that all models are wrong – not got enough middle and low level clouds. …what he [Zwiers] has done comes to a different conclusion than Caspar and Gene! I reckon this can be saved by careful wording.”

 

Writing to Jones, Peter Thorne of the U.K. Met Office advised caution, saying:

 “Observations do not show rising temperatures throughout the tropical troposphere unless you accept one single study and approach and discount a wealth of others. This is just downright dangerous. We need to communicate the uncertainty and be honest. Phil, hopefully we can find time to discuss these further if necessary…”

 

In another e-mail, Thorne stated:

“I also think the science is being manipulated to put a political spin on it which for all our sakes might not be too clever in the long run.”

 

Another scientist worries: “…clearly, some tuning or very good luck [is] involved.  I doubt the modeling world will be able to get away with this much longer.”

 

Still another observed:

“It is inconceivable that policymakers will be willing to make billion-and trillion-dollar decisions for adaptation to the projected regional climate change based on models that do not even describe and simulate the processes that are the building blocks of climate variability.”

 

One researcher foresaw some very troubling consequences:

“What if climate change appears to be just mainly a multi-decadal natural fluctuation? They’ll kill us probably…”

 

So they keep out contrary views and scientists, block publication of studies that contradict, try to get people fired, and secretly talk about how to hide contrary evidence. That is not science my friend, AND it is totally unnecessary if a theory can stand up to scrutiny.  There are a handful of people driving this, and quite a few opportunists along for the ride. What have we gotten for our 100+billion we have spent on this?

 

 

 

http://www.forbes.co...e/#485af05876fb


"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive" -- C.S. Lewis

 

If the only way to combat "global warming" was to lower taxes, we would never hear of the issue again. - Anonymous

 

"Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one" — Thomas Paine, 𝘊𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘰𝘯 𝘚𝘦𝘯𝘴𝘦 (1776)

 


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Posted 31 March 2016 - 04:34 PM

This one sums up my feelings on the subject perfectly.

 

http://www.theonion....f-scienti-37761



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Posted 31 March 2016 - 04:40 PM

And yet another scientific study released yesterday with some very disturbing ice cap and sea level models.  These scientists must have some investments  in a seawall company that will net them some nice profits 100 years in the future.  

 

http://www.nytimes.c...-rise.html?_r=0



#6 Chris

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Posted 01 April 2016 - 08:01 AM

Yes, the NY Times.....   Such a great source for unbiased political and environmental journalism....!   

 

And let us look at some of the other articles Justin Gillis has authored...  He is a very controversial science writer who covers "environmental science" for the NY Times and has been called out by many as an climate alarmist with a political agenda.  His other partner in crime is Coral Davenport who is also of the same mold.  I am sure they were both Environmental Science majors or minors when they got their journalism degrees....   Ape, you know that you never met another Environmental Science major in school who was a conservative or had different ideas, challenged the status qou.  If you are, if you do, you don't graduate, the professors would not allow you to pass through the system.  If you don't follow the liberal, progressive, environmental science, man is bad, corporations are evil, government is good agenda you don't make it.   Chris

 

Scientists Warn of Perilous Climate Shift Within Decades, Not Centuries
By JUSTIN GILLIS

 

Seas Are Rising at Fastest Rate in Last 28 Centuries
By JUSTIN GILLIS

 

In Zika Epidemic, a Warning on Climate Change
By JUSTIN GILLIS

 

2015 Was Hottest Year in Historical Record, Scientists Say
By JUSTIN GILLIS

 

Climate Chaos, Across the Map
By JUSTIN GILLIS

 

Climate Accord Is a Healing Step, if Not a Cure
By JUSTIN GILLIS

 

Delegates at Climate Talks Focus on Saving the World’s Forests
By JUSTIN GILLIS

 

Paris Climate Talks Avoid Scientists’ Idea of ‘Carbon Budget’
By JUSTIN GILLIS


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#7 The Average Joe

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Posted 01 April 2016 - 11:42 AM

I'll stick with Carlin... lol

 

https://youtu.be/BB0aFPXr4n4


"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive" -- C.S. Lewis

 

If the only way to combat "global warming" was to lower taxes, we would never hear of the issue again. - Anonymous

 

"Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one" — Thomas Paine, 𝘊𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘰𝘯 𝘚𝘦𝘯𝘴𝘦 (1776)

 





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