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South Of 50 Debate Heats Up - Council Members Disagree On Road


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#1 Steve Heard

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 09:33 PM

From the Folsom Telegraph: 

 

What started as an update on the first phase of the South of 50 development turned into a debate on one important road, Prima Drive, during a public hearing at the July 11 City Council meeting.

During the power point, presented by David Miller, director of the Folsom Community Development Department, some changes to the first phase were offered. It wasn’t easy to ignore the various residents in the audience who were not pleased.

One of the items discusses was Prima Drive, which is a road that will connect the Rolling Hills Subdivision (RHS) in El Dorado Hills to the South of 50 development. This road will be placed behind the homes on Stonebriar Court and is for emergency response use only – not a public road.

Councilman Steve Miklos stated this road is in the El Dorado Hills (EDH) Fire District jurisdiction, was requested by the EDH Fire District and has been not news to anyone, yet the few residents who spoke during their three minutes “played ignorant.” He also said Folsom Fire Chief Felipe Rodriguez confirmed the road is extremely necessary.

A number of residents from the RHS were not shy with their comments about the topic. The three folks who went up to speak claimed they were never told Prima Drive would be built out as a road. Instead they claimed they were told it would be a thin, one-lane, unpaved road that emergency response would only have access to.

One resident, who identified herself as a real estate agent for 20 years, claimed the road would devalue not just her home, but all of them; ruin her open-space view; create unnecessary crime; and cause large amounts of cut-through traffic.

The second resident to speak was Matt Sites, president of the Rolling Hills Community Service District.

Another resident, the real estate agent’s neighbor, also claimed she had no idea about the road. As she sat down after her three minutes, she said, “They better not build that (explicit) road.”

The three residents all claimed the open road would cause headlights to shine in their homes every time a car drives past.

Later in the meeting, evidence was found their homes are situated higher than the proposed road. It was also advised that greenery would be placed around some parts of the road to block any possible lights.

The idea of an automatic gate that only emergency response would have access to was discussed. The gate would have three ways to be opened – a key, a sensor and a push-button in emergency response vehicles.

Councilman Roger Gaylord said he couldn’t see the difference in waiting 30-45 seconds for the gate to open compared to no gate at all.

“I wasn’t convinced using a through-street would eliminate the response time,” Gaylord said. “It would be more susceptible to traffic conditions like we have in other spots in Folsom. I have lived in a gated community prior for 12 years and it didn’t seem like a big difference.”

Gaylord followed by saying he wasn’t given a large amount of time to review this matter.

Miklos, a retired firefighter-paramedic of 11 years, said he was offended to hear his colleague’s statements.

“I am not going to sacrifice public safety for anyone who is worried about cut-through traffic,” Miklos said. “This road is primary access for our side of the line. The gate is for secondary access. It bothers me when someone says they can’t see a difference in 30-45 seconds. It offended me.”

Miklos also said that 30 seconds could be the determining factor whether someone lives or dies; and you don’t know what kind of obstacles emergency response went through to just get to that point.

“I got annoyed in my colleague, who represents the people of Folsom, that they would vote against Folsom residents and side with El Dorado Hills because of through-traffic,” Miklos said.

He followed by saying if Folsom was built up before the RHS side was, he would’ve still voted in favor of an open road for the safety of all parties.

Another point that Miklos brought up during the meeting was the possibility of a power outage. This scenario would make the response time longer as emergency personnel would have to open the gate by hand. Miklos said during the meeting this would not be ideal.

Council voted 4-1 in favor of an open road and the debate was concluded.

Sites stormed out of the meeting and said he had no further comment on the project.

 


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#2 ducky

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Posted 21 July 2017 - 07:34 AM

I find this article confusing.  The first paragraph says Prima Drive is to be used for emergency response only and is not a public road, but then the rest of the article makes it sound like they did a switch and decided to make it an actual road with cut-through traffic.  If that's the case, I can understand why people would be upset.



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Posted 21 July 2017 - 08:39 AM

I found the following article about it. Apparently, they were going to make it a full road to initially use as access for all the construction traffic and equipment for the new development. They had to scrap that plan when the residents objected. I would think the residents are a bit skeptical about the supposed "emergency access only" premise they're now claiming. Also, I didn't know that EID, not Folsom, will be supplying the water for this first phase. Nothing in the article about the necessity of the road for fire protection. Is El Dorado County supplying that as well?

 

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Posted 21 July 2017 - 10:20 AM

I found the following article about it. Apparently, they were going to make it a full road to initially use as access for all the construction traffic and equipment for the new development. They had to scrap that plan when the residents objected. I would think the residents are a bit skeptical about the supposed "emergency access only" premise they're now claiming. Also, I didn't know that EID, not Folsom, will be supplying the water for this first phase. Nothing in the article about the necessity of the road for fire protection. Is El Dorado County supplying that as well?

 

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Thanks, Deanna.  That article was more informative.  The article Steve posted does say that El Dorado Hills Fire District has jurisdiction and requested the road.

I was also surprised about EID supplying the water.



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Posted 21 July 2017 - 11:23 AM

 

Thanks, Deanna.  That article was more informative.  The article Steve posted does say that El Dorado Hills Fire District has jurisdiction and requested the road.

I was also surprised about EID supplying the water.

I wonder how that works when the development is in the City of Folsom in Sacramento County, and the fire dept is in El Dorado County. Since property taxes won't be paid to EDC, how is fire protection paid?



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Posted 22 July 2017 - 04:03 PM

And nothing we say or do will change anything...........!   Talk to Nancy Pelosi's husband, or Phil Angelides if you want a change.   Miklos....?    Come on Sac Bee...!   Where is your article on this whole deal, follow that money trail....?    Such low hanging fruit, ripe for the easy picking....!  


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Posted 22 July 2017 - 10:31 PM

You can go online and listen to what happened at the city council meeting.  Check it out.

 

 

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