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#16 tony

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 03:23 PM

According to AAA, there are 18 states that require safety inspections on various schedules (some exempt newer cars, some only require inspection at time of sale or entry into the state, but most are annual or biennial). While there apparently used to be more (NJ quit doing inspections in 2010 to safe $11M) and several of these are northeastern states (places I'm sure EDF would characterize as nanny-states), there are some notable exceptions, like Texas, Louisiana, West Virginia...

I don't know what percentage of crashes might be prevented by safety inspections, but if it is significant, then I see this as a reasonable place for the state to be involved. Safety inspections are not to protect you from yourself,; they are to protect you from other idiots who might not feel the need to maintain their vehicles. Case in point: two weeks ago I very nearly was in a crash on Hwy 50 as a wheel from a utility trailer rolled across all EB lanes of the road. The car in the adjacent lane shielded it from my view, so it was only pure luck that I didn't hit it. Would inspections have prevented this? No way to tell, but maybe, and I've seen similar mechanical failures causing crashes in the past (another one that comes to mind is a car that lost steering apparently due to failed tie rods - front wheels pointing in different directions until one folded over).

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 03:49 PM

Well, dear EDF, I don’t like demagoguery too much…however, lets try…
I can’t speak for all the immigrants, but I can tell you what I see, and believe me I can compare, I lived before in one socialistic and one half socialistic/capitalistic countries.
I am not saying what is good/bad, I do really love USA in my own way and of course appreciate the chance living here, it also was my choice, even though the country before is democratic and my life quality there was not less then here, I haven't had to run saving my life...etc.
But , you know, how can I tell you that…things are conceived in comparisons.
So you tell, everyone should take care of their stuff and make sure to follow the rules, but in reality there are some who don’t.
We all know it, this is the reason you are buying the insurance product like crazy in US, right? This is the reason, for example, the healthcare system is rotten, and our country is an the end of the long list of countries having great medical system.What about unemployment, crime, poverty in our great country? You are happy with that or you only care about yourself as I see it?
I am not a socialist, but I believe that the system can be optimized, I don’t want as well more taxes, I believe the big money is already in the game and all we need is to have system optimization. No taking any freedoms, more taxes, but revisiting the problematic areas….This is not an easy task with all the politic games and lobbies…I guess it will remain a wish only.
BTW, the original post was concerning for safety of lawful drivers, not an attempt to get more taxes on us, maybe you better think about other solution to prevent such a problem...



Mista Pony...

You see... this all starts out as a "well meaning" thing on your part. People like you in this case of yours think "there outa be a law"...

However when you talk about a "regulation" like this...? doesn't someone have to "administer it"... "regulate it"... "enforce it"..? which means my friend... MORE STINKING GOVERNMENT...!!!!!

When you have "more" of government.. you have to have "guv-ment" worker drones to do the work... they get vacations... sick leave, bonuses and along with their bloated salaries.

And that dear friend means WE HAVE TO RAISE TAXES TO KEEP THIS PROGRAM GOING...!!!!!

This would be the awful end result because folks like you think "that while most of us are responsible, we need this regulation to make sure everyone complies"... isn't that your argument...?

This is why we have failed public schools because "educrats" use the same logic... "yes, we know you are a responsible parent we know you'd like a voucher to have your own choices, but because not all parents are responsible like you we have to have this system of public schools so everyone has an equal outcome"... basically a "stinking Commie/Socialist formerly known as a Democrat nanny state party kind of thinking..


Well Pony babe... we don't need any more stinking regulations.. god we live in California and I can't even have a wood burning fireplace going in the dead of winter to keep the house warm because of some "junk science" called man made global warming... I'm fed up with regulations... and hopefully there will be more folks like me than you who can vote these creeps out of office so we get our lives back...

Thanks for the opportunity of hopefully giving you some "enlightened" points of this memo...don't forget this.. because there will be a Pop quiz later...

Thanks

Love you tho....

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 05:34 PM

Hey now, nobody better take away my right to own THIS CAR (nsfw)

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 07:17 PM

According to AAA, there are 18 states that require safety inspections on various schedules (some exempt newer cars, some only require inspection at time of sale or entry into the state, but most are annual or biennial). While there apparently used to be more (NJ quit doing inspections in 2010 to safe $11M) and several of these are northeastern states (places I'm sure EDF would characterize as nanny-states), there are some notable exceptions, like Texas, Louisiana, West Virginia...

I don't know what percentage of crashes might be prevented by safety inspections, but if it is significant, then I see this as a reasonable place for the state to be involved. Safety inspections are not to protect you from yourself,; they are to protect you from other idiots who might not feel the need to maintain their vehicles. Case in point: two weeks ago I very nearly was in a crash on Hwy 50 as a wheel from a utility trailer rolled across all EB lanes of the road. The car in the adjacent lane shielded it from my view, so it was only pure luck that I didn't hit it. Would inspections have prevented this? No way to tell, but maybe, and I've seen similar mechanical failures causing crashes in the past (another one that comes to mind is a car that lost steering apparently due to failed tie rods - front wheels pointing in different directions until one folded over).

Well, tony, I remember when CA used to have roadside inspections. My Dad got popped by the CHP at one for having "glass paks" and was given a fix it ticket to put regular mufflers back on his GTO.
This was the same time period of my life when we were in a traffic accident on Hwy 17 coming home from Santa Cruz because someone's tire fell off their car and crossed into oncoming traffic (us). So I can tell you, inspections don't prevent tires from falling off of vehicles that end up causing accidents. I'm glad our state dropped the roadside vehicle inspection. I'm sure it has saved millions in tax dollars.
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Posted 16 August 2012 - 10:53 AM

Well, dear EDF, I don’t like demagoguery too much…however, lets try…
I can’t speak for all the immigrants, but I can tell you what I see, and believe me I can compare, I lived before in one socialistic and one half socialistic/capitalistic countries.
I am not saying what is good/bad, I do really love USA in my own way and of course appreciate the chance living here, it also was my choice, even though the country before is democratic and my life quality there was not less then here, I haven't had to run saving my life...etc.
But , you know, how can I tell you that…things are conceived in comparisons.
So you tell, everyone should take care of their stuff and make sure to follow the rules, but in reality there are some who don’t.
We all know it, this is the reason you are buying the insurance product like crazy in US, right? This is the reason, for example, the healthcare system is rotten, and our country is an the end of the long list of countries having great medical system.What about unemployment, crime, poverty in our great country? You are happy with that or you only care about yourself as I see it?
I am not a socialist, but I believe that the system can be optimized, I don’t want as well more taxes, I believe the big money is already in the game and all we need is to have system optimization. No taking any freedoms, more taxes, but revisiting the problematic areas….This is not an easy task with all the politic games and lobbies…I guess it will remain a wish only.
BTW, the original post was concerning for safety of lawful drivers, not an attempt to get more taxes on us, maybe you better think about other solution to prevent such a problem...


Pony,
keep in mind in the USA , that freedom and preservation of it comes first. More regulation of our lives is not a good thing.
As others have said , when you own a vehicle you are responsible for it, not the state telling you its time to replace your tires,shocks,change your oil, replace all of your headlamp-tailight bulbs.

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 12:04 PM

Pony,
keep in mind in the USA , that freedom and preservation of it comes first. More regulation of our lives is not a good thing.
As others have said , when you own a vehicle you are responsible for it, not the state telling you its time to replace your tires,shocks,change your oil, replace all of your headlamp-tailight bulbs.


Yes, I am getting idea now, what are the reasons :D:
Thanks for all comments, I'll keep mantaining my cars according to schedule :-)

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 12:32 PM

I believe it was either Reagan or Brown that dropped the State Inspections in CA. This was the late 60's or early 70's. I remember seeing the inspection sticker on the windshield when I was a kid in L.A.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 03:04 PM

I believe it was either Reagan or Brown that dropped the State Inspections in CA. This was the late 60's or early 70's. I remember seeing the inspection sticker on the windshield when I was a kid in L.A.


You are right, but don't let anybody use that (or the fact that a third of states still do it) from letting people miss out on the chance to show off their intolernace, zenophopia, and general bad attitudes.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 03:07 PM

You are right, but don't let anybody use that (or the fact that a third of states still do it) from letting people miss out on the chance to show off their intolernace, zenophopia, and general bad attitudes.



So true man, we need state car inspections to be mandatory again and I want to open the Inspection Shop for it here in Folsom, I'll only charge $200 a year per inspection.

I also think the state needs to fund car washes by increasing our taxes to ensure every Californian has a state paid for car wash once a week. Dirty windows can lead to wrong turns and people could get lost.

Increased taxes, increased state fees and a business I can become filthy rich off of - yeah baby yeah!!!!!!

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 03:29 PM

I believe it was either Reagan or Brown that dropped the State Inspections in CA. This was the late 60's or early 70's. I remember seeing the inspection sticker on the windshield when I was a kid in L.A.


I think I remember my dad getting pulled over into one of those. I remember because he wasn't too happy about it. He took pride in keeping his car maintained and didn't like the intrusion.

Glad they dropped it. Can you imagine the costs now?

I've been on the freeway and seen a tire rolling by. Scary stuff. Would a vehicle inspection have stopped that? Hard to say. Doubt it if the problem was improper tire installation in between inspections.

I've also been on the Folsom Blvd. on-ramp and had to dodge a recliner that fell off the back of a truck. Inspections and extra fees don't stop that. A guy in a Jeep was killed a few years ago when he tried to miss a ladder in the road that had fallen off a construction guy's truck. Inspections wouldn't have stopped that. I hear a lot more about those types of incidents than actual mechanical failure.

I have found places that say that 95 percent of accidents are related to driver behavior.

I'd rather not grow government any more than it already is.




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