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Posted 05 January 2016 - 12:44 PM
I just don't get why people continue to buy these things as pets. I am an absolute dog lover, but have no love for this particular breed.
Its not a coincidence or just bad owners (as many like to claim) as to why these things overwhelmingly make the headlines when it comes to maulings. When you have a breed that been developed for the sole purpose of killing this is what you get.
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Hopeless Addict
Posted 05 January 2016 - 01:18 PM
When irresponsible people are allowed to have dangerous animals, weapons, etc, then bad things happen. Just another day in America, a country in a seemingly downward spiral of stupidity.
Living Legend
Posted 05 January 2016 - 02:19 PM
I just don't get why people continue to buy these things as pets. I am an absolute dog lover, but have no love for this particular breed.
Its not a coincidence or just bad owners (as many like to claim) as to why these things overwhelmingly make the headlines when it comes to maulings. When you have a breed that been developed for the sole purpose of killing this is what you get.
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Hilarious take on this. Years ago in Detroit it was Doberman's mauling kids now Pit Bulls are more trendy for whatever reason and getting the headlines. And yeah, it's almost always about owners and not the dog, sorry. I have plenty of friends with these dogs and haven't been eaten yet.
Owner
Posted 05 January 2016 - 02:29 PM
Hilarious take on this. Years ago in Detroit it was Doberman's mauling kids now Pit Bulls are more trendy for whatever reason and getting the headlines. And yeah, it's almost always about owners and not the dog, sorry. I have plenty of friends with these dogs and haven't been eaten yet.
I know that many times, it is the owner. Pits are the dog of choice for thugs and wannabe tough guys, and many seem to want to make them meaner.
My own experience comes from friends who've had them, and most have been pretty mellow. My sister had one, and it attacked other dogs twice, and bit someone once, so they had to put it down. It was super friendly with her and her children, and around me and mine, so it was a shock when he attacked.
The first time we thought it was just dogs being dogs, but after a second and third, and this dog was treated great as far as I know, we had to think it was the breed.
I do have friends who have had them, with kids and grandkids, without problems, but every once in a while a seemingly docile one attacks.
There was the case of the woman who was killed by her own when she went to feed it. Many other examples.
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Veteran
Posted 05 January 2016 - 02:38 PM
I generally agree with the sentiment that it's the owner and not the dog. The owner should be charged with the same violations just as if he used any weapon. One must be responsible for ownership. If you don't want the responsibility, don't own it.
I can't understand why any pit bull couldn't be just as well behaved as the the pit bulls Cesar Milan owns. If you want to raise a guard dog, fine. But then you should be held fully liable for any issues just like any other weapon used for protection.
I see a lot of dog owners around town that have no clue how to control their dog. Or exhibit any responsibility for their dog. Some are good, many are bad. There are no bad dogs, just bad owners.
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Posted 13 January 2016 - 01:21 AM
I am a strong believer it is in the Dog's DNA to be aggressive. In the 1990's, my Golden Retriever was attacked while I was walking him in a Sacramento Neighborhood. There was an unrestrained Pitbull sitting still on a lawn and then started running at us. The Pitbull locked his jaw on my Dog's back. This is the only time I saw my Golden Retriever growl and get aggressive to defend. My Dog was not injuried. The Golden Retriever was bigger and handled the Pitbull. The Pitbull ran away.
I was attacked again two years ago in front of my home in Folsom. There was a person walking his two dogs across the street and were pulling aggressively while I exited my home. I made it in front of my neighbor's home and one of Pitbull's leashes broke. (Today's leashes are designed that way so the dog can break free if gets caught in something.) When the Dog was charging, I knew my dogs and I were done for. The dog started fighting with one of my dogs. The pitbull picked up my dog in it's jaws and shook it like a rag doll. I picked up my other dog and started running for my front door. As I was running up my lawn, The Pittbull jumped on us from behind and bit my other dog hard I was holding. My dog ended up biting me in the face when it tried to bend back to defend. My front door just happed to be locked so I had to stop and by that time the owner grabbed his dog successfully.
Finally inside my home I had to prepare the dogs for the emergency vet visit. Both of my dogs had muiltiple punctures in their torsos and got away with stitches. The vet bill was almost a grand.
Hopeless Addict
Posted 13 January 2016 - 06:29 AM
I am a strong believer it is in the Dog's DNA to be aggressive. In the 1990's, my Golden Retriever was attacked while I was walking him in a Sacramento Neighborhood. There was an unrestrained Pitbull sitting still on a lawn and then started running at us. The Pitbull locked his jaw on my Dog's back. This is the only time I saw my Golden Retriever growl and get aggressive to defend. My Dog was not injuried. The Golden Retriever was bigger and handled the Pitbull. The Pitbull ran away.
I was attacked again two years ago in front of my home in Folsom. There was a person walking his two dogs across the street and were pulling aggressively while I exited my home. I made it in front of my neighbor's home and one of Pitbull's leashes broke. (Today's leashes are designed that way so the dog can break free if gets caught in something.) When the Dog was charging, I knew my dogs and I were done for. The dog started fighting with one of my dogs. The pitbull picked up my dog in it's jaws and shook it like a rag doll. I picked up my other dog and started running for my front door. As I was running up my lawn, The Pittbull jumped on us from behind and bit my other dog hard I was holding. My dog ended up biting me in the face when it tried to bend back to defend. My front door just happed to be locked so I had to stop and by that time the owner grabbed his dog successfully.
Finally inside my home I had to prepare the dogs for the emergency vet visit. Both of my dogs had muiltiple punctures in their torsos and got away with stitches. The vet bill was almost a grand.
Veteran
Posted 13 January 2016 - 09:53 AM
I'm a firm believer that, if you're a good responsible dog owner, you know the problem is with the owner, not the breed.
Many dog owners have no clue on how to own a dog. No more clue than people who have never owned a dog.
Look at many of the small breeds -- I encountered one that was damn hostile at the lake. The only reason we don't hear about that in the news is because when the get loose and bite, the damage is minimal (especially for an adult victim). It's the owner.
Perhaps some breeds have more of a natural docile disposition. But dog issues are invariably breeder / owner issues.
Veteran
Posted 13 January 2016 - 12:16 PM
All breeds of dogs behave differently and it is the order of the "Animal Kingdom". Humans can have an effect on their behavior but still it is never certain how the animal will act in certain situations. Pittbulls are the only breed that can lock it's jaws on something with little or no energy which gives the breed a special ablility to tear things apart.
Hopeless Addict
Posted 13 January 2016 - 12:20 PM
All breeds of dogs behave differently and it is the order of the "Animal Kingdom". Humans can have an effect on their behavior but still it is never certain how the animal will act in certain situations. Pittbulls are the only breed that can lock it's jaws on something with little or no energy which gives the breed a special ablility to tear things apart.
I agree. if there wasn't something in the breeding, it wouldn't keep happening in an almost predictive way. Other dogs do bite, but there are certain breeds that kill. I had a Gordon Setter once. He was bred to point. I never taught him to point, not even sure I would know how. But we were out once in a field when he saw a bird and pointed perfectly. Its absolutely amazing.
Veteran
Posted 13 January 2016 - 12:30 PM
How awful! I hope the owner of the pit paid your vet bill!
Yes they did. My dogs were real resilient. When I took my dogs back out the door to go to vet the dog that was shaken wanted to resume her walk! The other dog ran from the door to stay inside. I walked this dog the next day and everything got better. I waited two days to walk the shaken dog. Stitches and all on both.
I had no anger toward anyone but I was disappointed with the City of Folsom...but that is another story.
Hopeless Addict
Posted 13 January 2016 - 02:39 PM
I had no anger toward anyone
OK, now THIS is a problem.
You have NO ANGER toward anyone ?? Are you nuts ??
You were lucky. You or your dogs could have easily been killed. It's happened zillions of times in this country and around the world. What is wrong with you ??
You see, this is the problem. When people are merely attacked, bitten, and bloodied, they aren't that mad...but then when someone is killed, then here comes the anger !!
Your thinking is similar to a lot of thinking these days by so many people on so many issues: they take an ignorant, *I really don't care* view of things until BAD THINGS AND/OR DEATH HAPPEN, then comes all the faux outrage.
Your reaction to what happened to you is bizarre.
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