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[camay2327]

Let's hope he didn't molest his own daughter too. A lot of the time this starts at home...

[Chad Vander Veen]

I've got a rope - you got the tree?

I'm in. Cases like these are when "democracy" ought to take a holiday.

[bordercolliefan]

Thanks to RL for some ideas on how to talk to our kids. I had a general discussion with my girls, focusing on what they could and should do in certain situations.

Thanks to all the guy posters who are ready to string this guy up. Not that I condone it... but it's nice to know there are plenty of good men out there who would go to the mat to protect our little girls. Speaking from experience, there are few things sweeter (or more innocent) than 6 year old girls...

[tessieca]

Thanks to the Folsom PD for taking the first allegation seriously. When a small child says they've been touched inappropriately, people need to believe it until it is disproved. Thankfully, I think are local detectives approach it that way.

[BlueStateMom]

I'm in. Cases like these are when "democracy" ought to take a holiday.

I agree.

Last time I checked the Megan's Law website, we had 19 of these guys in
Folsom. Now it says we have 21 of them, and one is only a block away from
Gallardo elementary. I undertand that there's really no way to know WHERE
these guys are, since no one checks-up on them when they move. (I asked
the DOJ last year about this, and they say there are just not enough resources
to keep up with them as they move around freely).

Once convicted, I'm in for locking them up for life. The risk is just too great.

[Brett911]

I agree.

Last time I checked the Megan's Law website, we had 19 of these guys in
Folsom. Now it says we have 21 of them, and one is only a block away from
Gallardo elementary. I undertand that there's really no way to know WHERE
these guys are, since no one checks-up on them when they move. (I asked
the DOJ last year about this, and they say there are just not enough resources
to keep up with them as they move around freely).

Once convicted, I'm in for locking them up for life. The risk is just too great.

by law, convicted sex offenders have to register with local authorities each time they move. failure to re-register upon a move is a volation of the law and is punishable by jail. Folsom PD does check up on the registered ones so that the registered individual knows they are being watched. FPD is proactive in monitoring these perps.

here's a link to the databse i posted here on MyFolsom some time ago. use it regularly: http://www.tomatopag...?showtopic=3797

[BlueStateMom]

by law, convicted sex offenders have to register with local authorities each time they move. failure to re-register upon a move is a volation of the law and is punishable by jail. Folsom PD does check up on the registered ones so that the registered individual knows they are being watched. FPD is proactive in monitoring these perps.

here's a link to the databse i posted here on MyFolsom some time ago. use it regularly: http://www.tomatopag...?showtopic=3797

Just because the law says these guys need to re-register, it doesn't mean they all DO it. You'll notice that most of the displays listed for the guys in Folsom say the offender "may have subsequently relocated". When I asked the DOJ whether any agency tracks where they go, to ensure that they re-register at their new destination, the answer I received (I wish I had saved the email), was something to the effect that due to "resource limitations", following-up is a low priority.

Sure, if Folsom PD knows that one of these guys has moved into Folsom, (that would only happen if an offender chooses to follow the law and notify the local PD), then of course they check. However, if one of these guys decides to move from Folsom to Chicago or Phoenix, there seems to be no mechanism in place to make sure that they have registered wherever they say they are going. That is a HUGE problem.

It would be almost impossible to keep track, and it would be safer for all of our kids if these guys were never let out after their first conviction. I'm willing to see my tax dollars go to pay for it, if it keeps these guys off the streets, and away from our kids. In these cases, one strike, you're out is fine with me.

[Deb aka Resume Lady]

While I like to know where registered sex offenders live, I always function under the assumption that there are way more sexual predators who are not registered and/or have never been prosecuted/found guilty. Many offend for years before they're caught, if they're caught. It just behooves parents to use appropriate levels of caution, educate our children, and be ever vigilent in doing whatever is in our power to ensure the safety of our children.

[BlueStateMom]

While I like to know where registered sex offenders live, I always function under the assumption that there are way more sexual predators who are not registered and/or have never been prosecuted/found guilty. Many offend for years before they're caught, if they're caught. It just behooves parents to use appropriate levels of caution, educate our children, and be ever vigilent in doing whatever is in our power to ensure the safety of our children.

I agree. However, I'm wondering...what is it going to take, how many molested children do we have to hear about, how many times to we have to cry while watching CNN when another child is found dead, before the system changes?

After reading through the Megan's Law website for Folsom registered offenders, and reading the list of crimes for which these guys have been convicted, do you feel that it makes sense for these people to have been released from prison? It makes absolutely no sense to me.

Like all of us, I feel so awful for the children (and their parents) who were hurt by this latest Folsom offender. In my opion, if he's convicted, he should never, ever, be let out to do this again to more children. I'm willing to have my tax dollars pay for it.

[Deb aka Resume Lady]

And how about this idiot judge from Vermont -- Judge Cashman -- who resided over the case of child molester Mark Hulett, 34, for having sexual contact with a girl, beginning when she was six, over a four year period of time. What was Hulett's sentence? Sixty days! They need to get this jerk off the bench.

[Chad Vander Veen]

Not to turn this political, but how many of those on the liberal side would be in favor of madatory chemical or physical castration for perpetrators of these crimes?

[Steve Heard]

Not to turn this political, but how many of those on the liberal side would be in favor of madatory chemical or physical castration for perpetrators of these crimes?

aye

[Deb aka Resume Lady]

Not to turn this political, but how many of those on the liberal side would be in favor of madatory chemical or physical castration for perpetrators of these crimes?

You know, everything I've heard about rape/molestation is that it's about power, not about sex. I've heard mixed information from experts as to whether removing someone's ability to salute the captain is really effective at preventing further abuse, since someone who still has anger issues/power issues can sexually abuse in other ways. If I knew chemical castration was 100% effective at preventing future abuse, I'd be all for it. But if it's not -- I would rather see these scums-of-the-earth rot in jail.

[bordercolliefan]

If I knew chemical castration was 100% effective at preventing future abuse, I'd be all for it. But if it's not -- I would rather see these scums-of-the-earth rot in jail.

Assuming there was proof of its effectiveness, I would support castration. Maybe after serving their sentence, perpetrators could be given a choice between chemical castration or remaining in jail indefinitely.

These are harsh remedies, but it is even harsher to allow innocent children to continue to be victimized by a known offender. From everything I've read, the "cure" rate for sex offenders is almost nil. Until we can figure out how to change that, we need to do whatever it takes to prevent them from offending again.

[nhardy]

Until we can figure out how to change that, we need to do whatever it takes to prevent them from offending again.

That's easy. Kill them. Problem solved. If you disagree with that then that's your problem. If it's safe to say that recovery for kiddie perverts is 0 to none, then why waste his/her time or the taxpayers time to put them through the system? Extinguish them from society. Fast and effective.