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Posted 07 February 2019 - 07:09 AM
What is the Green New Deal?
In very broad strokes, the Green New Deal legislation laid out by Ocasio-Cortez and Markey sets goals for some drastic measures to cut carbon emissions across the economy, from electricity generation to transportation to agriculture. In the process, it aims to create jobs and boost the economy.
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Posted 07 February 2019 - 07:22 AM
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Posted 07 February 2019 - 07:28 AM
Unfortunately, reality cannot be confined to the length of a bumper sticker.
"It's complicated."
The American system is NOT purely capitalistic.
We have veins of socialism in the mail delivery system, the military, Medicare, Social Security, etc.
Although I don't consider myself a socialist (I don't want the state to control industry), I do think
areas such as health care and stewardship of the environment should not be controlled by
for-profit corporations.
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Posted 07 February 2019 - 07:33 AM
She's a pure idiot... as is anyone who advocates the crap she spews.
Living Legend
Posted 07 February 2019 - 07:38 AM
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Posted 07 February 2019 - 08:17 AM
Yes, I'm for it.
Can you imagine if you're sick, or your parent is sick, and you have a choice of care-givers?
One works for the money alone.
Another works out of a sincere desire to help people.
Which one would you choose?
See? You need not be so fearful of words like "socialism" or even "communism."
Someone has control over a vast forest.
Would you prefer that person be committed to protecting the environment,
or one who sees profit as the only goal?
See? Reasonable people can have these "far out" ideas.
Oh, and thanks for asking!
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Posted 07 February 2019 - 10:17 AM
You are nuts. Self interest drives 99.5% of ALL transactions. There is no altruistic horde of doctors ready to go to 8 years of school, a few years of residency and constant training of skills "for the love of it"
The green deal is a phantom. a unicorn wet dream. You know what brought prosperity to the first world? Cheap, reliable energy. There is no cheap or reliable in the progressive green wet dream. Wherever it has been tried, costs skyrocket, reliability plummets, and the only thing that changes is an infinitely small percentage of CO2 release. CO2 does NOT drive climate! It's a false premise to ruin the first world economy in the name of "saving the planet." The planet will be just fine.
Ask S Australia how their green scheme is going. Rolling blackouts, power interruptions, etc. Ask Germany, Spain or Britain how those wind farms are working out. No, making power expensive and unreliable is NOT the way to improve the lives of people, especially poor people.
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive" -- C.S. Lewis
If the only way to combat "global warming" was to lower taxes, we would never hear of the issue again. - Anonymous
"Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one" — Thomas Paine, 𝘊𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘰𝘯 𝘚𝘦𝘯𝘴𝘦 (1776)
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Posted 07 February 2019 - 10:56 AM
OMG. I just read the outline of this and I have to wonder if some high school kid with no knowledge of economics, energy generation, climatology, geography or basically ANY science wrote this as a term paper socialist wish list. Good freaking grief. This is getting mocked, and rightly so
No, this is not the Onion...
Eliminate air travel?
Eliminate reliable cheap energy?
Eliminate cows?
Replace EVERY SINGLE BUILDING in the US?
Have a nationwide bullet train system?
Guarantee:
A job with a family sustaining wage, healthcare and family leave for everyone.
Safe, affordable adequate housing.
Economic environment free of monopolies
Economic security for those unwilling to work(?!?!?!)
"We set a goal to get to net-zero, rather than zero emissions, in 10 years because we aren’t sure that we’ll be able to fully get rid of farting cows and airplanes that fast..."
Holy crap! Our school system needs a complete overhaul. These people are bats**t crazy...and they have power!
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive" -- C.S. Lewis
If the only way to combat "global warming" was to lower taxes, we would never hear of the issue again. - Anonymous
"Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one" — Thomas Paine, 𝘊𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘰𝘯 𝘚𝘦𝘯𝘴𝘦 (1776)
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Posted 07 February 2019 - 01:06 PM
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Posted 07 February 2019 - 01:59 PM
LMAO The FAQ section on AOC's site for the green deal has been taken down. I guess spewing idiotic ideas to drunks at 3am is easier than blowing unicorn farts at intelligent people and thinking they will swallow it...
Bless her heart.
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive" -- C.S. Lewis
If the only way to combat "global warming" was to lower taxes, we would never hear of the issue again. - Anonymous
"Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one" — Thomas Paine, 𝘊𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘰𝘯 𝘚𝘦𝘯𝘴𝘦 (1776)
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Posted 07 February 2019 - 02:05 PM
Want to know why our budget is so f'ed up? Check out this q&A from Chief Economist on Dem Budget Committee. She is also a Prof of Eonomics and Public Policy. Holy Crap! She is a raving lunatic....
https://twitter.com/...575469440618496
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive" -- C.S. Lewis
If the only way to combat "global warming" was to lower taxes, we would never hear of the issue again. - Anonymous
"Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one" — Thomas Paine, 𝘊𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘰𝘯 𝘚𝘦𝘯𝘴𝘦 (1776)
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Posted 08 February 2019 - 09:09 AM
Three Words: Psychopath. Lunatic. Ignorant.
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Posted 08 February 2019 - 04:55 PM
Eliminate Cow farts and air travel..........? I will just eat more beef and drive up to Portland rather than fly as I do every now and then to do my part for AOC and her wet dreams.... Which I am sure in my 11 hour drive there I will "emit" more carbon than that good old 737-800 or that Dash 400 that I usually fly on.......
Girl is dumb, dumb, dumb...... Maybe even dumber than Maxine Waters or Mazie Hirono....? That's a toss up...! A future Joy Behar on some future, vapid, progressive talk show on NBC, ABC, CBS, or NPR........
But don't change democrats, I like your strategy....! 2020 will be handed to trump on a Sterling Silver platter....! I encourage you...! Stay the course, you are doing so well....!
Chris
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Posted 10 March 2019 - 06:47 AM
Story that has the elites quaking in their boots:
Ocasio-Cortez outdraws presidential candidates, decries moderates as 'meh'
https://www.nbcnews....tes-meh-n981451
Instead, she said, her view of democratic socialism emphasizes making everything, politics and the economy, more democratic. And she said capitalism — which she defined as an ideology of “putting profit above of everything else in society” — “cannot be redeemed.”
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Hopeless Addict
Posted 10 March 2019 - 08:08 AM
What a perfect little Marxist she is! And an idiot too! The economy in a capitalist society is ALWAYS, ALWAYS democratic. People vote every day with their purchases.
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive" -- C.S. Lewis
If the only way to combat "global warming" was to lower taxes, we would never hear of the issue again. - Anonymous
"Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one" — Thomas Paine, 𝘊𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘰𝘯 𝘚𝘦𝘯𝘴𝘦 (1776)
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