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#1 Steve Heard

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Posted 27 June 2005 - 09:55 PM

My daughter is dying for an xbox or playstation2. We see them advertised on ebay and craigslist as modded. One site I found said that modded meant it could play dvd's, and one could upgrade the hardrive. Another said that it would come with 500 games.

My daughter thinks it means that it could play both xbox and PS2 games.

Anybody know the truth?

Does it work?

Is it worth it?

Anything to watch out for?

Is it legal?


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#2 Brett911

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Posted 27 June 2005 - 10:02 PM

modded = modified = warranty is now voided = buy at own risk

mods could be anything, bigger hd, overclocked cpu or gpu
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Posted 27 June 2005 - 10:10 PM

modded XBOX arnt allowed on XBOX live. but you can do illegal things with them such as burn games to the hardrive
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Posted 28 June 2005 - 04:52 AM

When "mod" is used to describe a game system, it generally means that a chip has been installed in the system that allows it to circumvent some of the normal boot-up procedures, thus allowing you to do all sorts of things like: play copied games, boot some other operating system, etc. Basically to do things that the manufacturer was trying to prevent you from doing.

It definitely means your warranty is void as well.

It does not allow you to play games intended for one system on another.

The mods legality themselves is questionable. What they let you do (eg. copy games) is definitely illegal of course.

#5 Steve Heard

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Posted 28 June 2005 - 11:26 AM

QUOTE(bishmasterb @ Jun 28 2005, 04:52 AM)
When "mod" is used to describe a game system, it generally means that a chip has been installed in the system that allows it to circumvent some of the normal boot-up procedures, thus allowing you to do all sorts of things like: play copied games, boot some other operating system, etc. Basically to do things that the manufacturer was trying to prevent you from doing.

It definitely means your warranty is void as well.

It does not allow you to play games intended for one system on another.

The mods legality themselves is questionable. What they let you do (eg. copy games) is definitely illegal of course.

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I did a little web research and found this definition and comments:

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A common example is video game console mod chips, which can allow users to play games legitimately purchased in other regions or legal backup copies, but can also allow illegal unauthorized copies by allowing the player to play personally-recorded CD copies of video games. modchips originally started for the Playstation.

Some nations have laws prohibiting modding and accuse modders of attempting to overcome copy prevention schemes. In the United States, the DMCA has set up stiff penalties for modding involving such circumvention.

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On the other side, some companies actively encouraging modding of their products. In cases such as TiVo and Google, there has been an informal agreement between the modders and the company in which the modders agree not to do anything that destroys the companies business model and the company agrees to support the modding community by providing technical specifications and information. Some commercial video games thrive through a modding community. In the case of Half-Life, a mod called Counter-Strike drove sales of the original software for years. Space Empires is also a series renowned for its modding capabilities; virtually anyone, even a trained monkey, can make a custom mod for the game, since almost all of the game's critical files are .txt or .bmp files, allowing anyone (any Windows user at least) to easily adapt the game to suit their own needs. Almost everyone who has played Space Empires IV, the latest installment in the series, has created at least a small custom modification, and everyone has, at one time, played a mod, whether self-made or created by someone else. For info on this see mod (computer gaming)."

I am not an advocate of and would not know how to mod a system, but it seems to me that if I buy a product, I should be able to mod it, break it or eat it if I want to.


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Posted 28 June 2005 - 01:13 PM

l0l mod chip for play station i remember that back in the day. i had to use it to play some japanese game and i had to jam a crown in the playstation top, so i could do disc switch. thank g0d for better m0d chips now a days
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Posted 28 June 2005 - 01:18 PM

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Posted 28 June 2005 - 01:42 PM

In this case, the modification is a hack via a chip that is added to the motherboard... the #1 reason for the mod is so that you can play copied games, or games from another region.

With the mod - you can rent a game, do a cd to cd copy and bam, you now paid around a dollar for a fifty dollar game - it ain't exactly legit but its just like downloading music - lots of people are doing it

I'm no innocent....I modified our Playstation years ago.....but I won't do it to our PS2....which requires dual disks in order ot boot from a secondary hack cd while playing the game and copying the dvd's doesn't always work compared to the old days of copying the cd's....that and I just don't want the kids to have a boat load of games around...now that they're older...they have other things they need to be doing....or so I tell 'em.



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Posted 28 June 2005 - 02:47 PM

Why do you need to modify the device itself? Can't you do a cd to cd or dvd to dvd copy (duplicate) with the same results?
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Posted 28 June 2005 - 02:59 PM

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Why do you need to modify the device itself?  Can't you do a cd to cd or dvd to dvd copy (duplicate) with the same results?

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Because manufacturers have put hardware in place to prevent you from doing just that!

A theoretical example: Let's say the "MegaNintendo256" has a chip that makes the DVD drive look for a specific, non-standard hardware track on the DVD media that doesn't appear on normal DVD-R media? You'd have to replace that chip with a version that didn't look for that special track to get the drive to read off-the-shelf DVD-R media.

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Posted 29 June 2005 - 10:15 AM

Ah i c .... thank you gaming master... smile.gif

Though it's been a long time since I've been a fan of gaming, I can't wait to see next year's playstation (for non gaming reasons).
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Posted 23 August 2005 - 08:15 AM

now, if zach was to mod a console, seeing what he did with our physics project, id say that he would stick a big sharp object into the side of it and call it a self-defence spike.

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Posted 24 August 2005 - 07:11 PM

Fantomu...was that a Dreamcast i just saw in that picture? Please tell me that wasn't yours...

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Posted 24 August 2005 - 10:20 PM

nah there was also a xbox there. but my xbox screen looks just like that on 1 out of the 3 HD's i have
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Posted 25 August 2005 - 10:14 AM

Dreamcast is t3h roX0rs! Grandia 2?




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