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[TruthSeeker]

More bad decisions by our aging "developer owned and controlled" city council members:

 

FOLSOM (CBS13) – What was once a hidden gem nestled within a quiet Folsom neighborhood may now become a hotspot for criminals, according to people living there.

 

Evan and Tracy Paine live on a steep hill. They have beautiful views of oak trees known as the Hinkle Creek Nature Area.

 

It’s also where the city plans to build a road to maintain sewer lines.

“It’s an open door,” Evan said.

 

It’ll be about a mile long – and a few feet away from the Paine’s back gate.

 

“We’re going to have a swath cut through here,” Evan said.

 

The city has already marked the area with the goal being to gain access to manholes.

 

The Kindels – who live just next door – demand more information from the city.

 

“They need to tell us why,” Sharon Kindel said.

 

So far, they’ve gotten their hands on maps of the road and have gone door to door to get neighbors involved.

“This is gonna allow burglars and robbers to come right up in our backyard,” Fred Kindel said.

 

According to Marcus Yasutake, the City of Folsom’s director of environmental resources, the impacts of the project are simple.

 

“We’ve been going through private property gates and now we have a Capitol improvement project to address those concerns,” Yasutake said.

 

But it may soon be a bigger concern for those trying to keep their neighborhood a safe haven for kids.

 

Construction of the road is set to begin this summer. There is a community meeting planned this week at the Rotary Clubhouse.

 

The city says police officers will also be around to answer questions.

 

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[bordercolliefan]

Where exactly is this?

[TruthSeeker]

Where exactly is this?

 

Behind Canyon Rim Drive next to Hinkle Creek Nature Area.  (between Oak Ave Parkway and American River Canyon Drive)

[Howdy]

What is stopping burglars and robbers from coming up there now? Heck with them going to the media the burglars and robbers have now been made aware of a new place to go shopping. These people wouldn't be complaining unless they have some good stuff to steal that they want to protect., Do these people think that burglars and robbers only use paved roads to commit crimes? I am sure there will be a gate at the bottom with a lock that only the utility workers have access to for when they need to get up to do work. Seems there is more to this and its what is not being talked about. The whole burglar and robber angle is to get people on their side while the real issue is not being brought to the forefront. 

[TruthSeeker]

If you watch the video you'll see the area is a steep hill filled with old oak trees. The city is going to build an access road up on the hill right behind their houses. 

 

A criminal wouldn't climb up that hill to access the houses but with a road that will make access much easier now. Hopefully that explanation paints a clearer picture so you can better understand the concern. 

[Steve Heard]

If you watch the video you'll see the area is a steep hill filled with old oak trees. The city is going to build an access road up on the hill right behind their houses. 

 

A criminal wouldn't climb up that hill to access the houses but with a road that will make access much easier now. Hopefully that explanation paints a clearer picture so you can better understand the concern. 

 

Although I don't like criminals any more than the next guy, if these backyard access roads were the preferred choice of burglars, wouldn't there be a ton of burglaries along our bike trails? In some areas, such as the Parkway, the trail is within a couple of feet of the back fences.

 

Maybe there'd be a difference with a road vs. a trail, I don't know.

 

I do know that a year or two ago I was asked to speak to a group of citizens and city representatives from Citrus Heights, when they were considering creating a bike system similar to ours. They wanted the perspective of a Realtor on the value of houses with trails going behind them vs those without. They wanted to know if the trails hurt or helped home sales.  

 

My opinion is that though it is a matter of personal preference, and some do fear being broken into if they were to buy a house on the trails, others want homes where they can jog or ride from their backyards directly onto the trails. 

[Howdy]

If you watch the video you'll see the area is a steep hill filled with old oak trees. The city is going to build an access road up on the hill right behind their houses. 

 

A criminal wouldn't climb up that hill to access the houses but with a road that will make access much easier now. Hopefully that explanation paints a clearer picture so you can better understand the concern. 

You are joking right?  The road is going to be gated at the bottom and will be used a handful of times a year. I see no problem at all. If there was no gate I still don't think my biggest concern would be the bad guys. It will be the kids up there partying, vandalizing, and leaving trash. Not to mention someone starting a fire and having it spreading to their houses. If I was the residents I would be going with that angle. Or even better get a greenie lawyer or hit up Karen at CBD and have them sue over the destruction the building of the road is going to cause and the poor purple penis frog that is going to loose its habitat because of all this. 

[nomad]

 I'd feel safe in that neighborhood if this was the case and not worry about a little access road bringing in the bad element.

[kcrides99]

Police and Fire will always advocate for more access. The more legitimate users in an open space area the less trouble makers will want to hang out. Believe it or not bad guys do not like to be seen.

[Darth Lefty]

If only they'd thought to call it a bike trail

[maestro]

.City meeting Jan 28 Lew Howard Pk, discuss "sewer access roads."
Engineering done by Quincy, outside firm at cost $1/4 M.
http://www.folsom.ca...px?BlobID=22605


.Map of three areas to receive "sewer access roads", at the highest point in all of Folsom.    Allegedly roads are for "maintaining manholes" in this hilltop, forested area.    

http://www.folsom.ca...px?BlobID=22606

 

Well, thank you Channel 13 for listening about city sewer woes!!!!!!

 

Meeting is Wed. 28th at north end of Lew Howard Park  (where the raw sewage open-air pit was built a few years ago).

 

The city engineers have not followed the environmental process, therefore federal agencies and state agencies had made no input to these three huge paved road projects for    SEWER ACCESS   at the top of the highest point in town.

 

Well, you know me, just had to ask city director of sewer, and city engineer for their Approved blueprints & plans.    Looks to me as though the city is looking for a location to apply for more federal funds for paved trails.    Remember?   The $3 million GRANTS of FED money (for Phases 2 and 3 of the Johnny Cash Prison trail) was  pulled away from the city last year.    No blueprints there either.    

 

Residents, do you really like the city planning quietly to build $6 Million worth of roads in the Hinkle Creek watershed?    Yes, this is your SEWER monies, allegedly.     Just another ruse.    

Did you know at least 15 residents have sued the city for raw sewage spills and other pipe issues at Folsom Bluffs, above the American River?    Look at Jan 27 city council agenda.      Now the city has at least 2 dozen houses of people suing them -- with environmental (SEWAGE)  issues as the problem.

 

Great work  CBS  Channel 13 KOVR.  

Going door to door shows you really care about keeping raw sewage out of the American River.

[The Average Joe]

Exactly how much maintenance do manholes need? And as any plumber will tell you, S flows downhill. Why do we need this on a hilltop?

[sunnyCA]

 I'd feel safe in that neighborhood if this was the case and not worry about a little access road bringing in the bad element.

LOL!

[Darth Lefty]

And as any plumber will tell you, S flows downhill. Why do we need this on a hilltop?

 

It has to start somewhere

[nomad]

Exactly how much maintenance do manholes need? And as any plumber will tell you, S flows downhill. Why do we need this on a hilltop?

 

You need a vent hole right?