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[Adamal]

Where was that protection on 9/11?

9/11 was tragic and a terrorist attack, not an invasion. There is no way we can protect ourselves 100% from these kinds of things from happening. Personally I think the government took their eyes off the ball (both administrations). As a citizen if you see something suspicious report it, but don't go out in the street lynching any Muslims you find.

[ducky]

9/11 was tragic and a terrorist attack, not an invasion. There is no way we can protect ourselves 100% from these kinds of things from happening. Personally I think the government took their eyes off the ball (both administrations). As a citizen if you see something suspicious report it, but don't go out in the street lynching any Muslims you find.

Nobody here has said they desire anything remotely like the underlined should happen except you.

As far as protecting ourselves against things like that, yes, we can do something about it.


An Afghan-born Colorado airport bus driver has pleaded guilty to plotting to blow up New York's subway system.
http://news.bbc.co.u...cas/8528998.stm

[The Average Joe]

"I fear the power of our government and the current economic outlook for America orders of magnitude more than I fear any religion or "race"."

At last, something we can wholeheartedly agree on!

[Folsom Guy]

Anyone else besides me notice that the liberals are giving this a complete pass?
How come Christians aren't supposed to say Christmas anymore, but it's a-ok to say Happy Eid Al-Adha, a muslim holiday. You won't see Merry Christmas in any ads, but you'll see this below

Integration and assimilation my behind, they don't and won't and we must cater to them, not vice versa.
We are so screwed

When and where is it that Christians aren't supposed to say Merry Christmas? I am not a Christian and wish all my fellow Christians Merry Christmas during the holiday season...no one ever complained....

I have had only one instance - in WINCO - when a Jew lady got upset when the checkout clerk wished her Merry Christmas...

At work, they try to be PC and all mass mailings say Happy Holidays, hold parties and do white-elephant with eveyone dressed in Chrismassy colors...who's kidding whom?

[FolsomVW]

Well - the terrorists are on the run in Afghanistan and Pakistan - either being killed or captured at a rate faster than ever - and Obama is the liberal symbol...so, something had to be drudged out to criticize...

'coz I was in England recently - in London as well as in small towns in South and North - and saw no signs of any impending Islamization anywhere.....

You've got that right on both counts. This guy Geert is an absolute hater, plain and simple. Did I miss the part where he mentions how France banned girls face scarves in schools, and the Swiss banned the minarets. Wait a minute, European is looking more like a nation of (Shari'a) laws!

[The Average Joe]

Europe is fighting back as they are losing ground. Geert is gaining in popularity in his home country...and abroad...
"Geert Wilders’s Freedom Party is on course to top the polls in the Dutch election in the summer, after tremendous gains in local elections this week – it came first in Almere and second in The Hague, the two only local authorities the party contested, and this despite Wilders being put on trial earlier this year for “insulting Islam”.

Geert, new William of oange?

[FolsomVW]

Europe is fighting back as they are losing ground. Geert is gaining in popularity in his home country...and abroad...
"Geert Wilders’s Freedom Party is on course to top the polls in the Dutch election in the summer, after tremendous gains in local elections this week – it came first in Almere and second in The Hague, the two only local authorities the party contested, and this despite Wilders being put on trial earlier this year for “insulting Islam”.

Geert, new William of oange?

American didn't get its nickname, "The Melting Pot" for nothing! We won't follow the lead of European countries in this regard. With the exception of a very small sliver of people who blame others for their own positions in life, and fear things they don't really understand, we come to accept our differences, and more than anything still agree that Liberty should spread far and wide, and not just to people who look like me.

[Bill Z]

American didn't get its nickname, "The Melting Pot" for nothing! We won't follow the lead of European countries in this regard. With the exception of a very small sliver of people who blame others for their own positions in life, and fear things they don't really understand, we come to accept our differences, and more than anything still agree that Liberty should spread far and wide, and not just to people who look like me.

Yep, we are the melting pot. But it seems now most foreigners aren't doing any melting.
i.e. they insist on keeping their ways and not adopting our ways. They feel we have to print all material in their languages as well as our language, English. They feel we have to respect their religion while crying foul when Americans try to enjoy our religions.

Times are a changing. it used to be foreigners came here and changed into Americans. Now foreigners come here and don't change, they cling to their homeland ways and traditions. I find nothing more insulting than when a foreigner marches against our government waving their native lands flag. I find it insulting when foreigners come here and insist upon their traditions being broadcast publicly.

[FolsomVW]

Yep, we are the melting pot. But it seems now most foreigners aren't doing any melting.
i.e. they insist on keeping their ways and not adopting our ways. They feel we have to print all material in their languages as well as our language, English. They feel we have to respect their religion while crying foul when Americans try to enjoy our religions.

Times are a changing. it used to be foreigners came here and changed into Americans. Now foreigners come here and don't change, they cling to their homeland ways and traditions. I find nothing more insulting than when a foreigner marches against our government waving their native lands flag. I find it insulting when foreigners come here and insist upon their traditions being broadcast publicly.

I don't think it's for me to tell first generation immigrants that they have to give up the ties to their heritage, just because my ancestors gave up theirs. That's not how I see the melting pot under the guise of assimilation. My great grandmother immigrated here when my grandfather was just 13, and she never spoke anything but Italian. She communicated with me through girdling hugs, forcefed ravioles and excessive two handed cheek pinching. She didn't hurt society because of it. And I never hear non-english speaking immigrants demanding forms in a second language. Perhaps you understand them without a translated, eh?

I believe freedom of speach extends to residents and immigrants a lot. Why should you let what other people do, that doesn't affect you, bother you so much? Are you actually concerned about the proportion of publishing costs involved... Since we allow nonenglish speakers to immigrate and vacation here, there still exists a need for translated.materials.

They will eventually take on more traditionally Americans qualities, including speaking English just like my grandfather and his siblings did. Not having retained any of the traditions that my European ancestors once enjoyed, I'd never call for others to do the same. Maybe I'm the only person here who feels this way.

[Bill Z]

I don't think it's for me to tell first generation immigrants that they have to give up the ties to their heritage, just because my ancestors gave up theirs. That's not how I see the melting pot under the guise of assimilation. My great grandmother immigrated here when my grandfather was just 13, and she never spoke anything but Italian. She communicated with me through girdling hugs, forcefed ravioles and excessive two handed cheek pinching. She didn't hurt society because of it. And I never hear non-english speaking immigrants demanding forms in a second language. Perhaps you understand them without a translated, eh?

I believe freedom of speach extends to residents and immigrants a lot. Why should you let what other people do, that doesn't affect you, bother you so much? Are you actually concerned about the proportion of publishing costs involved... Since we allow nonenglish speakers to immigrate and vacation here, there still exists a need for translated.materials.

They will eventually take on more traditionally Americans qualities, including speaking English just like my grandfather and his siblings did. Not having retained any of the traditions that my European ancestors once enjoyed, I'd never call for others to do the same. Maybe I'm the only person here who feels this way.

That's not what I said, try again if you want to reply to what I said, you can start with one of the two items in the 2nd paragraph.

[Inwit]

*LET ME SEE IF I GOT THIS RIGHT.*

IF YOU CROSS THE NORTH KOREAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET 12 YEARS HARD LABOR.

Unless you are a bimbo journalist and can get an ex-president to beg for your release.

I still wonder to this day how much moula Clinton had to promise Kim Jong Il to secure her release. Makes me sick to think about it.

[The Average Joe]

Perhaps he sent him some cigars....


"Why should you let what other people do, that doesn't affect you, bother you so much? "

Your premise is false. What they do does affect me... and you

You feel the effect every time you have to press 1 for English...every time you have to compete for work they do cheaply and illegally... every time you have to wait hours in an ER, where the first question you are asked is what your nationality is... every time you have to communicate a thought or idea to an employee that cannot comprehend the basics of English... every time you pay taxes for their subsidized housing, food stamps and other assistance... every time you get in an accident with an uninsured illegal... every time a crime is committed, and you pay to incarcerate the illegal....etc, etc, etc.

[uberman]

Islamification is accelerating,

I've been getting chills about this for a while now, I was in Mumbai during the most recent terrorist attack (luckily I wasn't near the city,) Islamification is a clear and present danger. But so is ALL religion. Muslims blow up buildings with suicide bombers, Christians blow up buildings with patriot missiles.

RELIGION is accelerating, that's what keeps me up at night.