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#331 TruthSeeker

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Posted 16 July 2013 - 10:53 PM

This was a landmark case in nothing more than one MORE case of racial motivated hatred that turned into rage and created an opportunity to kill. There was no reason for these actions to have happened at all.
 
That man got away with murder and people want to hail this as a reason to celebrate gun rights. The morality of that logic is base.


An innocent man was getting beaten possibly to death but a large young MAN who did and possibly sold drugs who if he was so innocent and saintly would not have attacked Zimmerman.

It's crazy how all you lefties think you know what happened and were there and you naively claim Zimmerman was a racist - ONLY BECAUSE HE IS HALF WHITE.

Where is your passion and accusations against the black on black violence that happens daily in Chicago and elsewhere? That's ok right because no evil white person was involved.

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Posted 16 July 2013 - 10:59 PM

I think it's terrible that Obama is inciting the NAACP and having his minion Holder try and kill more of our self defense laws and take away more of our freedom.

Our president is the biggest racist of all.

Maybe La Raza should get involved and finance and stage protests to support Zimmermans Hispanic heritage.

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#333 Carl G

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 08:29 AM

17 years old is NOT a boys age.

Why is the president pushing racism with this case?

It's obvious with the White House manipulating the press and financing protests most democratic voters automatically believe self defense is evil and anyone who is not black and defends themself is a racist murderer.

 

17 years old is a man's body encumbered with a child's brain.



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Posted 17 July 2013 - 10:23 AM

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After thoroughly reading the law we found him guilty of attempted manslaughter due to "imperfect self defense". While the defendant may have thought he needed the knife to defend himself, the fight never escalated to that level. No real punches were thrown or connected, they were in a clinch on the ground. There was no reason to pull out the knife much less stab the attacker in the chest (near his heart).

The reason my case was different is that no reasonable person would think their life was in danger or subject to great bodily harm at that moment.

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This is why SYG laws and other laws protecting self-defense exist. Unrealistic analysis of what someone should be thinking during the disorienting fight-or-flight adrenalin rush of being unexpectedly attacked.

 

Just as quickly as the defendant pulled a knife, the attacker could have done so.  That's why trying to get nitpicky about what a "reasonable person" would be thinking in that moment is the absolute wrong attitude that puts the victim of the attack in danger as they have the burden of trying to analyze the situation as they are being attacked. You have no idea of the intent or capabilities of the person that just attacked you.

 

Eff that. You attack me and aren’t backing off, you get stabbed. You don't want to get stabbed? Then don't effing attack me. I'm not running the risk of what you might do, especially if you feel that I am getting the upper hand.

 

Pertaining to the Zimmerman trial; the problem is that, even if Zimmerman was the attacker and deserved to get his head bashed in, there is absolutely no evidence of that and some evidence to the contrary. Either way, only Treyvon, George Zimmerman and your Diety of choice know for sure. Thankfully, our legal system is based on the requirement of facts to prove guilt and not simply the opinions of people that were nowhere near the event. If anything, we need to lean MORE in that direction, not less. It is a bigger tragedy to incarcerate the innocent than it is to let the guilty go free.


"Just think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider!" -- George Carlin

#335 Chris

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 02:30 PM

Supermom, please read this very good article for a better understanding of this case.   Chris

 

http://nationalrevie...n-tuttle?splash=

 

 

July 17, 2013 4:00 AM
Angela Corey’s Checkered Past

Her peers describe an M.O. of retaliation and overcharging.

By  Ian Tuttle
 

Angela Corey, by all accounts, is no Atticus Finch. She is “one hell of a trial lawyer,” says a Florida defense attorney who has known her for three decades — but the woman who has risen to national prominence as the “tough as nails” state attorney who prosecuted George Zimmerman is known for scorching the earth. And some of her prosecutorial conduct has been, well, troubling at best.

Corey, a Jacksonville native, took a degree in marketing from Florida State University before pursuing her J.D. at the University of Florida. She became a Florida prosecutor in 1981 and tried everything from homicides to juvenile cases in the ensuing 26 years. In 2008, Corey was elected state attorney for Florida’s Fourth Judicial Circuit, taking over from Harry Shorstein — the five-term state attorney who had fired her from his office a year earlier, citing “long-term issues” regarding her supervisory performance.

When Corey came in, she cleaned house. Corey fired half of the office’s investigators, two-fifths of its victim advocates, a quarter of its 35 paralegals, and 48 other support staff — more than one-fifth of the office. Then she sent a letter to Florida’s senators demanding that they oppose Shorstein’s pending nomination as a U.S. attorney. “I told them he should not hold a position of authority in his community again, because of his penchant for using the grand jury for personal vendettas,” she wrote.

Corey knows about personal vendettas. They seem to be her specialty. When Ron Littlepage, a journalist for the Florida Times-Union, wrote a column criticizing her handling of the Christian Fernandez case — in which Corey chose to prosecute a twelve-year-old boy for first-degree murder, who wound up locked in solitary confinement in an adult jail prior to his court date — she “fired off a two-page, single-spaced letter on official state-attorney letterhead hinting at lawsuits for libel.”

 

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#336 supermom

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 08:09 AM

Supermom, please read this very good article for a better understanding of this case.   Chris

 

http://nationalrevie...n-tuttle?splash=

 

 

July 17, 2013 4:00 AM
Angela Corey’s Checkered Past

Her peers describe an M.O. of retaliation and overcharging.

By  Ian Tuttle
 

Angela Corey, by all accounts, is no Atticus Finch. She is “one hell of a trial lawyer,” says a Florida defense attorney who has known her for three decades — but the woman who has risen to national prominence as the “tough as nails” state attorney who prosecuted George Zimmerman is known for scorching the earth. And some of her prosecutorial conduct has been, well, troubling at best.

Corey, a Jacksonville native, took a degree in marketing from Florida State University before pursuing her J.D. at the University of Florida. She became a Florida prosecutor in 1981 and tried everything from homicides to juvenile cases in the ensuing 26 years. In 2008, Corey was elected state attorney for Florida’s Fourth Judicial Circuit, taking over from Harry Shorstein — the five-term state attorney who had fired her from his office a year earlier, citing “long-term issues” regarding her supervisory performance.

When Corey came in, she cleaned house. Corey fired half of the office’s investigators, two-fifths of its victim advocates, a quarter of its 35 paralegals, and 48 other support staff — more than one-fifth of the office. Then she sent a letter to Florida’s senators demanding that they oppose Shorstein’s pending nomination as a U.S. attorney. “I told them he should not hold a position of authority in his community again, because of his penchant for using the grand jury for personal vendettas,” she wrote.

Corey knows about personal vendettas. They seem to be her specialty. When Ron Littlepage, a journalist for the Florida Times-Union, wrote a column criticizing her handling of the Christian Fernandez case — in which Corey chose to prosecute a twelve-year-old boy for first-degree murder, who wound up locked in solitary confinement in an adult jail prior to his court date — she “fired off a two-page, single-spaced letter on official state-attorney letterhead hinting at lawsuits for libel.”

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doesn't tell me anything other than a very good defense lawyer set up a lot of hate toward that boy who isnt here to tell his side of the story.  So, waht...if they cant attack a dead boy they go after anyone else who tried to find justice for him.

 

You dont chase people down, force a fight and shoot them for walking in a residential neighborhood. Period. Right from the get go this entire situation was fabricated to commit murder and get away with it. 



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Posted 18 July 2013 - 09:19 AM

Is Angela Corey Gloria Allred's equally evil twin sister?

#338 Chris

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 10:02 AM



Is Angela Corey Gloria Allred's equally evil twin sister?

Very cool, you are thinking outside the box, I like it.............!

 

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And let us not forget Al Sharpton in all of this.  Maybe our big government should be crawling around in his affairs before he incites another race related death here in the USA...?   He has killed more people indirectly than GZ has directly......    Chris

 

Al Sharpton  from   http://en.wikipedia....iki/Al_sharpton

 

Freddie's Fashion Mart

In 1995 a black Pentecostal Church, the United House of Prayer, which owned a retail property on 125th Street, asked Fred Harari, a Jewish tenant who operated Freddie's Fashion Mart, to evict his longtime subtenant, a black-owned record store called The Record Shack. Sharpton led a protest in Harlem against the planned eviction of The Record Shack.[36][37][38] Sharpton told the protesters, "We will not stand by and allow them to move this brother so that some white interloper can expand his business."[39]

On December 8, 1995 Roland J. Smith Jr., one of the protesters, entered Harari's store with a gun and flammable liquid, shot several customers and set the store on fire. The gunman fatally shot himself, and seven store employees died of smoke inhalation.[40][41] Fire Department officials discovered that the store's sprinkler had been shut down, in violation of the local fire code.[42] Sharpton claimed that the perpetrator was an open critic of himself and his nonviolent tactics. Sharpton later expressed regret for making the racial remark, "white interloper," and denied responsibility for inflaming or provoking the violence.[15][43]

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#339 TruthSeeker

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Posted 22 July 2013 - 03:34 PM

Is Al Sharpton a member of Obama's anti-white cabinet?

 


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#340 caligirlz

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Posted 22 July 2013 - 08:39 PM

Hey y'all. Please summarize your articles. Copyright violation puts the forum at risk. If you don't want to do it, I will. :)



#341 supermom

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Posted 24 July 2013 - 05:45 PM

Hey y'all. Please summarize your articles. Copyright violation puts the forum at risk. If you don't want to do it, I will. :)

if its linked it is not a copy right infringement



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Posted 26 July 2013 - 03:06 PM

Supermom: Does Tray on bear any responsibility for what happened to him that night?

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 07:11 AM

doesn't tell me anything other than a very good defense lawyer set up a lot of hate toward that boy who isnt here to tell his side of the story.  So, waht...if they cant attack a dead boy they go after anyone else who tried to find justice for him.

 

You dont chase people down, force a fight and shoot them for walking in a residential neighborhood. Period. Right from the get go this entire situation was fabricated to commit murder and get away with it. 

 

Um, hate to throw out some facts, but Zimmerman did not chase him down and attack him. Period.

Your summary was fabricated to backup your stance on this situation.


Supermom: Does Tray on bear any responsibility for what happened to him that night?

 

Apparently not, he was just out reading the bible, handing out money to the poor and buying candy for his baby sister.

 

Such a completely innocent child, nobody knows how his fists managed to beat ZImmermans face, must have been Zimmerman just hitting himself to give him an excuse to shoot Trayvon (rolls eyes in deep sarcasm)


Very cool, you are thinking outside the box, I like it.............!

 

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And let us not forget Al Sharpton in all of this.  Maybe our big government should be crawling around in his affairs before he incites another race related death here in the USA...?   He has killed more people indirectly than GZ has directly......    Chris

 

Al Sharpton  from   http://en.wikipedia....iki/Al_sharpton

 

Freddie's Fashion Mart

In 1995 a black Pentecostal Church, the United House of Prayer, which owned a retail property on 125th Street, asked Fred Harari, a Jewish tenant who operated Freddie's Fashion Mart, to evict his longtime subtenant, a black-owned record store called The Record Shack. Sharpton led a protest in Harlem against the planned eviction of The Record Shack.[36][37][38] Sharpton told the protesters, "We will not stand by and allow them to move this brother so that some white interloper can expand his business."[39]

On December 8, 1995 Roland J. Smith Jr., one of the protesters, entered Harari's store with a gun and flammable liquid, shot several customers and set the store on fire. The gunman fatally shot himself, and seven store employees died of smoke inhalation.[40][41] Fire Department officials discovered that the store's sprinkler had been shut down, in violation of the local fire code.[42] Sharpton claimed that the perpetrator was an open critic of himself and his nonviolent tactics. Sharpton later expressed regret for making the racial remark, "white interloper," and denied responsibility for inflaming or provoking the violence.[15][43]

 

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Sharpton is an effing racist to the extreme - and a paid employee of Obama's racist anti-white army of protestors.


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Posted 11 May 2015 - 08:31 PM

So- let me ask you...does Zimmerman bear any responsibility for getting shot?

 

George Zimmerman suffers minor injuries in shooting incident, police say

 

http://www.wesh.com/...ce-say/32943828

 

 

people are not going to stop going after him. when cops racial motivated murder someone--the blue line protects the cop. Zimmerman hasnt got that. I'll bet you the day someone is successful in killing him- there will be celebrations in the streets.






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