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#1 UncleVinnys

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 07:20 AM

Hmmm! Wonder how the gun nuts will spin this latest tragedy?

 

Maybe all the victims were NRA members who oppose gun control??

 

 

 

Preventing Future Mass Shootings Like Las Vegas

https://www.nytimes....ting-vegas.html

 

1. Impose universal background checks for anyone buying a gun. Four out of five Americans support this measure, to prevent criminals or terrorists from obtaining guns.

2. Impose a minimum age limit of 21 on gun purchases. This is already the law for handgun purchases in many states, and it mirrors the law on buying alcohol.

3. Enforce a ban on possession of guns by anyone subject to a domestic violence protection order. This is a moment when people are upset and prone to violence against their ex-es.

4. Limit gun purchases by any one person to no more than, say, two a month, and tighten rules on straw purchasers who buy for criminals. Make serial numbers harder to remove.

5. Adopt microstamping of cartridges so that they can be traced to the gun that fired them, useful for solving gun crimes.

6. Invest in “smart gun” purchases by police departments or the U.S. military, to promote their use. Such guns require a PIN or can only be fired when near a particular bracelet or other device, so that children cannot misuse them and they are less vulnerable to theft. The gun industry made a childproof gun in the 1800’s but now resists smart guns.

7. Require safe storage, to reduce theft, suicide and accidents by children.

8. Invest in research to see what interventions will be more effective in reducing gun deaths. We know, for example, that alcohol and guns don’t mix, but we don’t know precisely what laws would be most effective in reducing the resulting toll. Similar investments in reducing other kinds of accidental deaths have been very effective.

 


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Posted 02 October 2017 - 07:47 AM

Fake News. Typical Commie Leftist knee-jerk reaction. In America, over 37,000 people die in road crashes each year...that's over 100 PER DAY!! After we ban cars, then we can talk about MORE gun control. Oh, and considering all the death and mayhem in Chicago, maybe it's time that we don't allow black people to have a gun. Keep peddling your Fake News... nobody is listening to you.

 

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 08:06 AM

The dead are not even cold yet and you anti 2A people have already crawled out from under your rocks....   You, the NYT, and Hillary....  And I am surprised you have not mentioned his race yet.....?  Usually when the perp is a middle aged white guy you lefties are all over it....!

 

I think of it this way, a lot of people crammed into one place, a place designated a "gun free" zone, this is called a target rich environment.  

 

And the NYT points, 1 to 4 already are in place, number 5 is stupid, micro stamping is stupid, does not work, and is easily fooled.

 

Number 6 is also stupid, renders firearms useless for self defense of the family in so many ways.

 

Number 7 is already in place and number 8 is stupid, in all my years of shooting, at the range and otherwise I have only met two people drinking and shooting.  Never a good idea.   I guarantee you that the people at the NY Times who wrote your list abhor guns and probably never shot one or know anybody who has, never hunted, never been in the military.  They are afraid of what they know nothing about, have no experience.    

 

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 08:28 AM

This is something UncleVinnys (UnclePsycho) would do, below:

 

https://www.infowars...vegas-massacre/



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Posted 02 October 2017 - 08:40 AM

Seriously? Every time this happens idiots like to stand up and spew idiotic nonsense about gun control.  Why don't we just start with making it illegal to murder someone?  Let me know how that works out.

 

How about let's make it illegal to be a progressive.  That will probably reduce these incidents dramatically.

 

Seriously -- give it a rest.   Idiot.



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Posted 02 October 2017 - 10:03 AM

I am sure the leftist MSM is desperately trying to tie him to Trump, the NRA, the right, conservatives, the alt right, white supremacist groups, or just any generic anti-white guy label.   May not be possible....?   See below, maybe this is, was him....?   If so it will be severely downplayed by the MSM, the violent leftist, in the pink hat....?   Chris

 

Las Vegas Shooter, Stephen Paddock, A former NASA employee and an impeach Trump leftist?

 

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#7 Who_Do_You_Trust

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 10:13 AM

I wonder if the NRA and 2A crowd will ever figure out that a "guns everywhere" strategy will result in bad actors and crazy people also having access to guns.  After Sandy Hook, 90% of America wanted modest tightening of background checks and closing a gun show loophole.  These are not draconian efforts to "take away your guns" as the pro-gun folks would have you believe.  These measures were to help keep guns out of the hands of bad actors and crazy people.  Unfortunately, the NRA hauled out their highly compensated lobbyists, sent them to Washington and nothing happened.  Very likely the same will happen after this tragedy.  

 

Another point -  The NRA and 2A folks want you to believe that "guns everywhere" protects your freedoms.  What they don't realize is it actually removes freedoms too.  After an incident like this, I'm pretty sure a lot of people will never again exercise their freedom to attend an open air concert or event.  I know I won't.        

 

One other thing - where were Wayne LaPierre's "good guys with guns"?  Certainly some of the people at that concert were armed.  Why weren't they shooting back?  Why is it that when one of these things happen, the "good guys with a gun" are never around?  By the time law enforcement arrives, it's too late.  Dead and injured everywhere. 

 

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 10:17 AM

Top CBS lawyer: No sympathy for Vegas victims, 'probably Republicans'

http://www.foxnews.c...epublicans.html

 

With people like this in positions of authority, it's no wonder that the normal people continue to support the 2A for the coming fight against tyrannical leaders.  The Left with a delusional, misplaced sense of moral and intellectual high ground are responsible for the current ills in this once great country.

 

AntiFa anyone?  BLM anyone? Obama anyone? Hillary anyone?  2A is very important to keep the delusional, tyrannical Left in check.



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Posted 02 October 2017 - 10:53 AM

ghost - what you say makes no sense.  You claim the "Left" (who wants total gun control) is responsible for the mass shooting in Las Vegas last night?  Don't you think blame rests squarely on the guy who was pulling the trigger?  Clearly had some screws loose.  And why did a crazy person have access to a significant arsenal?  Good question for congress and the NRA.  



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Posted 02 October 2017 - 11:50 AM

ghost - what you say makes no sense.  You claim the "Left" (who wants total gun control) is responsible for the mass shooting in Las Vegas last night?  Don't you think blame rests squarely on the guy who was pulling the trigger?  Clearly had some screws loose.  And why did a crazy person have access to a significant arsenal?  Good question for congress and the NRA.  

Actually he makes a lot of sense.  Historically, the "left" has always called for "gun control" and then once they had all the guns went on a killing spree of mass proportions.   Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Castro, Sandinista's, communists, Stalinist's, Trotskyites, etc.....   History proves you wrong once again Who_Dem......    


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Posted 02 October 2017 - 12:26 PM

You anti-2A Commie Libs are ignorant. The guy lived a perfectly normal life and had ZERO criminal record. Not much you can do to stop people who snap. You can't always stop evil. The fact that you Commie Libs *don't get that* is disturbing... and childish.

 

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 12:32 PM

Maybe it's him....?   Guy in pink hat...   At anti Trump rally....    Time will tell....

 

 

 


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Posted 02 October 2017 - 01:03 PM

  One other thing - where were Wayne LaPierre's "good guys with guns"?  Certainly some of the people at that concert were armed.  Why weren't they shooting back?  Why is it that when one of these things happen, the "good guys with a gun" are never around?  By the time law enforcement arrives, it's too late.  Dead and injured everywhere. 

 

Make America great again?  Don't bet on it.

 

Dumbest thing I have ever read on this forum. During the chaos, just pull your gun and wildly shoot randomly at the hotel/casinos across the street. Nobody even knew where the gunfire was coming from. Yeah, good idea, genius. But you're playing the part of *troll* very well. Just an idiotic idea (if you were serious). You Commie Libs need help. :lol:



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Posted 02 October 2017 - 01:43 PM

Yeah, "InfoWars!"              :CRAZYLOCO:

That's unbiased, right?                  :KOOLAID:

 

Meanwhile the statistics of White on White murder takes a big jump today.

 

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 02:05 PM

Yeah, by a deranged Democrat who hated Country Music fans, who are notoriously Republican. Congrats, clown. You're really an awful adult.







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