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#1 UncleVinnys

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Posted 24 February 2018 - 09:56 AM

I think we can all agree the United States is in a sorry state today.  

We are divided. Neither side is willing to entertain the possibility that they might be wrong, or, heaven forbit, the “other side” might have valid beliefs.

We forget the second half of the motto “United we stand” is “divided we fall.”

I believe the best resolution to this is a spiritual one.
Who’s right? Who’s wrong?

Those filled with loving-kindness are always right.  :soapbox:

 

The one person here closest to the answer is - - < drumroll please! > - -    2Aces,   :cheer:
with his mantra of “Fake News.” Because this entire material existence is fake news.
The great spiritual thinkers, from Lao Tzu to the Mayans, the Hindus to the Buddhists,
and even some Christian references (my Kingdom is not of this world)  all allude to the
idea of non-dualism, the idea that we remain connected to our Creator: and having one
Father we are all brothers.

2Aces, though, doesn’t go far enough. It’s ALL fake news. Do you really think there
are Political Action Committees in the spiritual realms? There are no political parties there.
No shopping malls or nuclear plants. It’s rather a state of being where everyone
communicates telepathically and recognizes each other as brothers and sisters.
You cannot recognize that literally divine state when you harbor hatred for your   :grrr:
fellow man, who are all “Children of God.” Yes, even Trump, even Obama, even Hillary,    :lmaosmiley:
even the NRA members.

 

 


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#2 The Average Joe

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Posted 24 February 2018 - 11:15 AM

I don't believe Buddhists believe in one God or father. Nor do those that believe in Confucianism.  The one God is primarily tied to Islam, Judaism an Christianity.

I do agree with you on what is truly important though.


"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive" -- C.S. Lewis

 

If the only way to combat "global warming" was to lower taxes, we would never hear of the issue again. - Anonymous

 

"Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one" — Thomas Paine, 𝘊𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘰𝘯 𝘚𝘦𝘯𝘴𝘦 (1776)

 


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Posted 24 February 2018 - 01:32 PM

Well Buddhists adhere to the unity principle, which is the same thing as the Atonement..

 

@ Ace: Anytime you equate your happiness with what OTHERS have to do to make you happy,

well, that's a no-win situation. Now, everything EXCEPT yourself must change
in order for you to find salvation.

 

Old Chinese proverb. The road is rocky and difficult.

You can cover all the roads with leather,

OR

you can cover your own feet with leather.

Which is more practical and likely to work?

 

Meanwhile, NONE of the "libtards" and democrats are even aware of your rage

and suffering. So who's really hurt here?
What a waste, until you finally realize you are doing this to yourself.

 

Escape comes from the wisdom of John Lennon: "Let It Be!"

 


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Posted 25 February 2018 - 08:00 AM

So the left does everything they can to deny rights to religious people in this country (except the religion of peace, of which they are deathly afraid of), confuse genders, make bathrooms confusing to the general public, give illegals drivers licenses and college scholarships funded by my tax dollars, hate the police, hate the military, love BLM and Antifa, love North Korea, Cuba, and Venezuela, weaponize government agencies against their political rivals (think IRS, FBI, DOJ), raise taxes beyond any kind of rationality (think the AMT and death taxes, CA gas and property taxes), and make it so their unions can tell them how to vote but my priest or pastor will go to jail if they do.  Make it so I can't give a 14 year old a Tylenol to take at lunch but two perfect strangers to me can come to her school, take her to have an abortion, and then return her to school without ever telling me...?   And then use any national shooting tragedy to take my constitutional rights away while they go about creating fantasy "gun free zones" all over the country....?  The ones who tell a rancher or farmer they can't use their land or their water, their pond like they used to do so for the last 130 years because a Salamander or Butterfly is now endangered...?   So, who really is to blame for a divided nation again...?  You really need to put yourself in the shoes of others and look back on what you have done (the collective left) and what you are trying to do to us, the other half, to this very day.....!  Chris


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Posted 25 February 2018 - 12:44 PM

I think somebody is trying to throw a curve ball here.

 

The ones I hear complaining the most about our country is the liberal left. Shouldn't they be preached to about "loving kindness"?

What I see are a group of people who dream of remaking our country into everything THEY want, and in doing so, stomping on the rights of others to even so much as say they don't agree! As well as stomping on others, literally.

 

The hatred, violence and condemnation is coming from the left.  Aren't THEY doing this to THEMSELVES?

 

The liberal left are the ones crying about the acts of others and how everyone should change their feelings to accommodate them.



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Posted 25 February 2018 - 02:47 PM

There's a very common trap many of us fall into where we have a behavior stuck in the back of our

heads that we don't like, so we twist is and project it out on our "enemies." It's called projection.

You can never be happy with that coping mechanism, because now the source of your

happiness is dependent on what someone ELSE must do for your salvation.
It's always somebody else in this scenario, and never the self.

 

Old Chinese proverb. The road is rocky and difficult.

You can cover all the roads with leather,

OR

you can cover your own feet with leather.

Which is more practical and likely to work?

 

Meanwhile, NONE of the "libtards" and democrats are even aware of your rage

and suffering. So who's really hurt here?
What a waste, until you finally realize you are doing this to yourself.


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#7 UncleVinnys

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Posted 25 February 2018 - 03:27 PM

Yes, exactly.    :SCHWEEEET:    The enlightened ones just "Let It Be."

And the same is true for those who devote so much energy to hating Obama or Hillary.

 

What's the alternative?
That one group is going to completely change (or obliterate) the other? Not likely.


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Posted 25 February 2018 - 05:29 PM

Then why are you obsessed with criticizing and hating Trump with your idiotic no-evidence Trump - Russia collusion?

 

Your best friend has changed.   :drunk2:
Now, if ever in the future you see a hate-filled or taunting post from me then you can say truly "Gotcha!"

 

Until then, you can join me in celebrating the possibility that anyone can wake up to the good news

of the recognition of the spiritual connectedness of all humankind.


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Posted 26 February 2018 - 07:42 AM

Hey Tio Vinny, here's a wheelbarrow full of puppies to help you with your lament.....   Oh, and I'll send a shovel right over.....

 

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Posted 26 February 2018 - 09:05 AM

Cute! Thanks.          :deadhorse:

The lament is that it has become fashionable, even encouraged that we vilify our neighbors.
Seems now that it's OK to hate, demean anyone who thinks differently.
Giddy chants of "Lock her up!"
For me, that will not be the "norm."


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Posted 28 February 2018 - 02:20 PM

Per your latest post regarding Hope Hicks, I think you need to tell us again, just how evolved you now are and how you no longer vilify others.....

 

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 09:26 PM

Yeah, I guess Vinny's a "backslider" Aye!?


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Posted 02 March 2018 - 06:44 AM

Yeah, I guess Vinny's a "backslider" Aye!?

Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you. Such a person also goes into great detail about what they have seen; they are puffed up with idle notions by their unspiritual mind.


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