Are others as mesmerized by this case as I am?
First let me say I am so relieved and thankful she was found alive. Thank goodness her children will have a mother.
That said, it is a fascinating case with new bizarre facts coming out every day. A history of anti-Hispanic/white supremacist posts that may or may not be real... branding... torture... and no obvious motive. It is highly unusual for a kidnap victim to be released alive, since it makes it more probable the kidnappers will be caught.
Thoughts? theories?
Sherri Papini Kidnapping Case
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Posted 01 December 2016 - 09:34 AM
I too wonder what the motivation was behind Ms. Papini's kidnapping and torture. There is NOTHING she could have done in her past that would justify torture. I'm concerned that if the police believe this was a random act why haven't they issued serious warnings to residents of Shasta County to not jog/walk alone in parks and on trails?
I am glad she is home and that she will, hopefully, make a full physical recovery and that time and counseling will heal her emotional wounds from this horrific crime.
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Posted 01 December 2016 - 09:45 AM
Yes I have been watching closely. Information keeps dribbling out. Now the husband is doing interviews. This morning analysts on MSNBC were saying he is being looked at hard. Comments were made that in the past this couple were very open and attention seeking with and about their lives. Whatever that means. Snippets I have seen from the husbands interview give me an almost Scott Peterson like vibe. His demeanor seems off for someone having just gone through this. Talking about it he was almost like fondly recalling his wife's past doings. Like, oh you know that silly old Sherri. It was wierd. Just saying. Yes though, thankfully she is back. Just 87 lbs too and shaved head, bruises and even a supposed branding along with a broken nose. If it's a legit stranger kidnapping it is even more strange. Tough to really say right now.
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Posted 01 December 2016 - 10:23 AM
Sherri Papini’s Husband Describes Agony of Wife’s Kidnapping: ‘I Thought About Her Being There Screaming My Name’
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The husband of Sherri Papini, the California mom who mysteriously vanished last month, is telling of his own, personal agony as his wife spent 22 days in captivity.
In an exclusive sit-down with 20/20, Keith Papini opens up about the personal toll his wife’s capture took on him.
“I thought about her being there screaming my name,” he said.
Sherri vanished while out for a jog on Nov. 2. The mom of two was found around 4:30 a.m. Thanksgiving Day on the side of a Yolo County road — about 150 miles south of her Redding home.
Papini said Sherri’s captors pushed her out of a vehicle with a chain around her waist and a bag over her head on the day of her release. They left on the side of a road, badly beaten and bruised, her hair shaved off and her body branded, he said.
“She screamed so much, she’s coughing up blood from the screaming trying to get somebody to stop,” he said.
“And again, just another sign of how my wife is, she’s so wonderful. She’s saying, ‘Well, maybe people aren’t stopping because I have a chain that looks like I broke out of prison’ so she tried to tuck in her chain under her clothes.”
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Keith explained reuniting with his wife after her release, noting her battered and bruised condition in a statement obtained by PEOPLE.
“My first sight was my in a hospital bed. Her face covered in bruises ranging from yellow to black because of her repeated beatings,” he said. “The bridge of her nose broken. She has been branded and I could feel the rise of her scabs under my fingers.”
He added that she weighed only 87 lbs. and her long, blonde hair had been chopped off.
Sherri Papini’s Husband Reveals Her Horrific Conditions After Release: Broken Nose, Hair Shaved and Weighing 87 Lbs.
Police said Sherri was able to provide authorities with details about her alleged abductors — who police have described as two Hispanic women.
Sherri said that one of the women had long curly hair, thin eyebrows and pierced ears. The other woman, who was older, had straight black hair with gray and thick eyebrows. She told investigators that both of her captors spoke Spanish a majority of the time.
“Sherri did her best in providing the descriptions but was not able to provide a detailed description because of the assailants covering their faces,” Shasta County Sheriff Tom Bosenko said during a recent press conference.
The motive behind the alleged kidnapping is still unclear as authorities continue to investigate.
Keith’s emotional interview airs on ABC News 20/20 Friday, Dec. 2 at 10 p.m. ET.
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Posted 01 December 2016 - 11:00 AM
My husband thinks it's a hoax, but I don't. There is only so far a person would go... and breaking someone's nose, branding them, and starving them is too far.
I do not believe this was a random crime, though.
Usually sadistic, torturers or sex criminals work alone... It is chilling to think that somewhere in our area, there are 2 people--women no less--who are so depraved as to participate in the acts that were done to Sherri Papini.
I do not believe this was a random crime, though.
Usually sadistic, torturers or sex criminals work alone... It is chilling to think that somewhere in our area, there are 2 people--women no less--who are so depraved as to participate in the acts that were done to Sherri Papini.
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Posted 01 December 2016 - 11:05 AM
None of this story jibes. How many times have people been abducted like this just been let go? No ransom? No demands?
It will be either very good or bad to see what happens when all the investigation is done. Either I feel sorry for her and her family or I feel sorry for everyone that may have been duped by this event.
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Posted 01 December 2016 - 11:32 AM
I've heard a lot of people suggesting this case is a hoax. Interesting to me is the husband passed a lie detector test and his employer confirmed he was at work at the time of the disappearance (http://ktla.com/2016...iles-from-home/). I cannot help be think about the Vallejo case where the police labeled the kidnapping as hoax because the victim didn't act like a kidnapping victim only to be proved wrong when the FBI found the kidnapper. I hope the Sherriff isn't out of his league in dealing with this type of issue, which he seems to me to be. I'm also intrigued that he Sherriff suggested the husband talking about the case is jeopardizing it. If I was in that situation, I would seek any opportunity to help solve the crime against my family.
There was an early suggestion this could be a human trafficking situation. If true, it seems the first thing the kidnappers need to do would be to break the victim's spirit. Shaving off her hair, beating her, not feeding her, and worse seems like they could be just such attempts. Maybe her spirit wasn't so easily broken so they decided to cut their losses and dump her.
The other thing I've considered is the possibility of her being in the wrong place at the wrong time when she came across Mexican cartel members who decided to try to make some extra money from her through ransom, although there seems no indication of this.
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Posted 01 December 2016 - 12:28 PM
The human trafficking theory may be a good one. They are saying she may have been mistaken for a minor. Another said she nay have been mistaken Identidy. Like the Vallejo case you mention Carl G it doesn't jive but may be true anyway. If so though for what reason becomes the question.
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Posted 01 December 2016 - 12:35 PM
My husband thinks it's a hoax, but I don't. There is only so far a person would go... and breaking someone's nose, branding them, and starving them is too far.I do not believe this was a random crime, though.Usually sadistic, torturers or sex criminals work alone... It is chilling to think that somewhere in our area, there are 2 people--women no less--who are so depraved as to participate in the acts that were done to Sherri Papini.
BCF, the potential of a hoax from an attention seeking couple is a strong possibility. I have even heard her referred to as a Super Mom. I don't know where or why that all came from but still. it could be a one person hoax being the husband. Or both, the attention seeking couple. I agree that people would not go that far in most cases. Who knows though who we are dealing with here. Was the same with Scott Peterson to a certain degree. He was supposed to be Mr. Perfect. His mother in law stood by him at first.
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Posted 01 December 2016 - 12:59 PM
BCF, the potential of a hoax from an attention seeking couple is a strong possibility. I have even heard her referred to as a Super Mom. I don't know where or why that all came from but still. it could be a one person hoax being the husband. Or both, the attention seeking couple. I agree that people would not go that far in most cases. Who knows though who we are dealing with here. Was the same with Scott Peterson to a certain degree. He was supposed to be Mr. Perfect. His mother in law stood by him at first.
Truly a bizarre case. If it is a hoax it is quite elaborate. That cops say that her face and body were covered in bruises, the colors of which indicate repeated beatings, and the bridge of her nose was broken.
If it is a hoax, it is the freakiest ever. If it's not, I hope they catch the people who did it, as they need to be brought to justice and prevented from doing it again.
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Posted 01 December 2016 - 01:02 PM
Truly a bizarre case. If it is a hoax it is quite elaborate. That cops say that her face and body were covered in bruises, the colors of which indicate repeated beatings, and the bridge of her nose was broken.
If it is a hoax, it is the freakiest ever. If it's not, I hope they catch the people who did it, as they need to be brought to justice and prevented from doing it again.
But didn't they release her from the hospital in like 1 day? With all those injuries and being so malnourished you'd think a few more days would help?
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Posted 01 December 2016 - 01:14 PM
But didn't they release her from the hospital in like 1 day? With all those injuries and being so malnourished you'd think a few more days would help?
That is typical of hospitals nowadays. If you're not dying, they send you home. Actually, if you are dying, they send you home, too.
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Posted 01 December 2016 - 02:29 PM
It's bizarre because if it is legit the reasons and circumstances are even more mysterious and strange than if it were a hoax. Nancy Grace would have had a feast with this one. I'm sure we'll be hearing a lot more in coming days and weeks.
Investigator Believes Sex Trafficking Could Be Motive Behind Sherri Papini Kidnapping Case
greghanlontimeinc,People 6 hours ago
A private investigator and veteran human trafficking expert believes California mom Sherri Papini‘s case has the hallmarks of sex trafficking.
In a sit-down with The Today Show, Bill Garcia, who was hired by Papini’s family during the 22 days she was missing, told the show, “I suspect based in the types of injuries Sherri incurred, the beatings, the broken nose, the cut hair, especially the chains and the branding, indicate that most likely it was one of these sex trafficking groups.”
Garcia is not involved with the current police investigation, according to The Today Show.
When asked at a Wednesday press conference if Papini’s abduction might be related to a cartel or a sex trafficking operation, Shasta County Sheriff Tom Bosenko said, according to CBS, “We do not have specific information if it was related to a cartel or human trafficking.”
Papini vanished while out for a jog on Nov. 2. The mom-of-two was found around 4:30 a.m. Thanksgiving Day on the side of a Yolo County road — about 150 miles south of her Redding home.
Papini told investigators the women who abducted her were Hispanic, armed and driving a dark SUV.
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“There is a lot still unknown about her assailants,” said Bosenko at the Wednesday afternoon press conference.
Bosenko said Papini’s alleged abductors had sometimes covered her face and had concealed their faces as well during her three-week ordeal.
Human trafficking is a form of modern-day slavery in which people use force, fraud, or coercion to control victims and make them engage in commercial sex acts or labor services against their will, according to The National Human Trafficking Hotline.
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In a sit-down with ABC’s 20/20, Papini’s husband, Keith, said Papini’s captors pushed her out of a vehicle with a chain around her waist and a bag over her head on the day of her release.
They left her on the side of a road, badly beaten and bruised, her hair shaved off and her body branded, he said.
“She screamed so much, she’s coughing up blood from the screaming trying to get somebody to stop,” Keith Papini said.
“And again, just another sign of how my wife is, she’s so wonderful. She’s saying, ‘Well, maybe people aren’t stopping because I have a chain that looks like I broke out of prison,’ so she tried to tuck in her chain under her clothes.”
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Posted 03 December 2016 - 11:59 AM
Really strange. No way this is a hoax though. I think a stronger argument would be that the husband made the wrong people angry and they sent a message. Makes about as much sense as anything else. Will be interesting to see how this play out.
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Posted 04 December 2016 - 04:19 AM
Did anyone see the 2020 show Friday? All on the kidnapping. I don't know what to say. It's raised more questions in my mind than before. It really is a tough call to make. It seems legit and it reeks at the same time. One thing must be said, the husband did put himself out there for the whole hour. This guy is more sophiticated than Scott Peterson if he's lying. He's good. I'll give him that but he also knows how to lay on the drama and milk the spotlight it seems. That said the guy may just be dealing with a horrible thing in his own way. For me it is a tough call.
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