I think the city needs to take a serious look at redesigning Blue Ravine between Prairie City and Bidwell. This is a winding stretch of road traveled at high speeds by a high volume of traffic. There really needs to be a center median installed. Its not a matter of if there will be another head on, but only when. I drive this stretch of road daily, and always feel very uncomfortable doing so, staying in the right lane at all times.
Bad Accident On Blue Ravine
#31
Posted 05 June 2012 - 09:31 PM
#32
Posted 05 June 2012 - 09:31 PM
Devil's in the details but I like the concept.
Maybe that would work as a traffic calming measure. People might get tired of looking for alternate routes and so might learn to drive nicely. I would LOVE if they would close our street to through traffic.
#33
Posted 06 June 2012 - 08:18 AM
I think the city needs to take a serious look at redesigning Blue Ravine between Prairie City and Bidwell. This is a winding stretch of road traveled at high speeds by a high volume of traffic. There really needs to be a center median installed. Its not a matter of if there will be another head on, but only when. I drive this stretch of road daily, and always feel very uncomfortable doing so, staying in the right lane at all times.
I agree, although I'm not sure what they could do about it. I drove it yesterday. going north, you are going uphill and turning right at the same time. And its a blind spot to see what's coming at you because its sort of the crest of a little rise there.
#34
Posted 06 June 2012 - 10:02 AM
You need to stay in your lane and not cross over the line into oncoming traffic.
All in all that actually sounds pretty easy and the majority of us seem to be
able to do it.
#35
Posted 06 June 2012 - 12:04 PM
What is, IS. You need to drive the speed that you can control your own vehicle.
You need to stay in your lane and not cross over the line into oncoming traffic.
All in all that actually sounds pretty easy and the majority of us seem to be
able to do it.
Agreed. And leave a safe distance between you and the car in front of you, I might add.
#36
Posted 06 June 2012 - 01:42 PM
Agreed. And leave a safe distance between you and the car in front of you, I might add.
I think most people know to drive safely, so accidents are unusual. However, there seems to be quite a few in that particular area compared to most of our roads. There has to be a reason why, other than user-error. I say its a combination of a slightly tricky driving area (one where you actually have to pay attention) and bad drivers coming together to create a tragedy.
#37
Posted 06 June 2012 - 01:54 PM
I think most people know to drive safely, so accidents are unusual. However, there seems to be quite a few in that particular area compared to most of our roads. There has to be a reason why, other than user-error. I say its a combination of a slightly tricky driving area (one where you actually have to pay attention) and bad drivers coming together to create a tragedy.
I agree. I think it would be a good idea to put a planter barrier in the center of the road along the area where the you would come in and out of those curves. Another thing, also: I have noticed that people tend to slow down in areas where curbs are really high.
I think that may be a good deterrent to high speed on the curved roads.
#38
Posted 06 June 2012 - 04:07 PM
ditto, tailgating is like asking to be in an accident.Agreed. And leave a safe distance between you and the car in front of you, I might add.
#39
Posted 06 June 2012 - 10:38 PM
I agree. I think it would be a good idea to put a planter barrier in the center of the road along the area where the you would come in and out of those curves. Another thing, also: I have noticed that people tend to slow down in areas where curbs are really high.
I think that may be a good deterrent to high speed on the curved roads.
Concrete is dirt cheap(no pun intended). There has to be a will of the city council to
'fix' a problem and the will needs to weigh safety and lives over asthetics if need be.
Will be interesting to see if this city has the 'mojo' to improve things in a big way...
#40
Posted 07 June 2012 - 12:09 PM
Why are we designing roads that can handle speeds in excess of 60 MPH?
#41
Posted 07 June 2012 - 02:23 PM
What is, IS. You need to drive the speed that you can control your own vehicle.
You need to stay in your lane and not cross over the line into oncoming traffic.
All in all that actually sounds pretty easy and the majority of us seem to be
able to do it.
EXACTLY.
You can't make everything absolutely safe. You can't erase the human element. You cannot eliminate risk.
99.9999999% of the time, accidents don't happen.
#42
Posted 07 June 2012 - 02:26 PM
Blue Ravine, Iron Point, East Bidwell, Prairie City and Folsom Blvd are all essentially highways in Folsom. We see fatal crashes every year on all these highways, but apparently that's not enough to do anything. These highways allow very high speeds.
Why are we designing roads that can handle speeds in excess of 60 MPH?
Because we want to get somewhere. How about we just not have cars? If we all stayed in our houses, there would be NO CAR ACCIDENTS! Problem solved.
Slower speed limits won't stop car accidents. Individuals driving responsibly will. Can you make it so everyone drives responsibly 100% of the time? No. Therefore, you cannot guarantee my safety no matter the posted speed limit.
And if people had to drive any slower up and down Blue Ravine, then I assume shootings would rise.
#43
Posted 07 June 2012 - 02:29 PM
Ditch the tin Prius and stop driving 10 miles below the speed limit in front of ME.
Commute yourself in a nice, roomy SUV and your odds of being fataly hurt in an accident go down significantly.
I don't know who that's directed toward, but you know who you are!
#44
Posted 07 June 2012 - 03:03 PM
AND ANOTHER THING...while I'm ranting...
Ditch the tin Prius and stop driving 10 miles below the speed limit in front of ME.
Commute yourself in a nice, roomy SUV and your odds of being fataly hurt in an accident go down significantly.
I don't know who that's directed toward, but you know who you are!
Sounds like you still haven't gotten over that can I opened up on you in Fantasy Football last season!
#45
Posted 07 June 2012 - 03:06 PM
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