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[Howdy]

One thing to keep in mind is containment doesn't really have anything to do with water or fire activity. The fire could be completely out due to 12" of rain and the containment still only be 10%. Containment is the physical fire line they build around the perimeter of the fire. The percent containment is just the amount of line they have constructed.

It could be 100% contained and still lots of fire activity on the interior or it could be 0% contained an completely out and cold.  % contained is not a great measure of actual fire activity but is the metric the public equates to a fire being put out.

[Deb aka Resume Lady]

 

One thing to keep in mind is containment doesn't really have anything to do with water or fire activity. The fire could be completely out due to 12" of rain and the containment still only be 10%. Containment is the physical fire line they build around the perimeter of the fire. The percent containment is just the amount of line they have constructed.

It could be 100% contained and still lots of fire activity on the interior or it could be 0% contained an completely out and cold.  % contained is not a great measure of actual fire activity but is the metric the public equates to a fire being put out.

 

Thanks for that explanation. I never knew that.

[chris v]

One thing to keep in mind is containment doesn't really have anything to do with water or fire activity. The fire could be completely out due to 12" of rain and the containment still only be 10%. Containment is the physical fire line they build around the perimeter of the fire. The percent containment is just the amount of line they have constructed.
It could be 100% contained and still lots of fire activity on the interior or it could be 0% contained an completely out and cold.  % contained is not a great measure of actual fire activity but is the metric the public equates to a fire being put out.

Yep. It just means they have a perimeter more or less or control area. That's also why they back burn as well to create a larger perimeter from the containment line.

[supermom]

Wish we had those santa fe winds up here. Blow that stuff right back into the mountains. phew, its bad stuff. Hospital is packed with sickos today

[Deb aka Resume Lady]

If you need to be outdoors in the smoke for any length of time, buy Niosh-approved N95 respirator masks. Basic medical masks are not good enough to filter fine particulate that is in smoke. My airway took a hit the last time we had intense smoke in Folsom. I've carried these masks in my car ever since just in case.

[The Average Joe]

I remember driving through Yellowstone in 1990. That was only 2 years after they had that MASSIVE fire. There was a heck of a lot of new growth amongst the char. The forest will come back. It might take a couple decades to be even close to what it was, but it will recover. Very sad and senseless though.

[mac_convert]

If you need to be outdoors in the smoke for any length of time, buy Niosh-approved N95 respirator masks. Basic medical masks are not good enough to filter fine particulate that is in smoke. My airway took a hit the last time we had intense smoke in Folsom. I've carried these masks in my car ever since just in case.

Where do you get these? I have season asthma and the air quality has really thrown me for a loop!

[JMB83]

According to these photos (from Sunday), Stumpy Meadows CG isn't completely torched!

https://www.facebook...&type=1&fref=nf

Hopefully a good percentage of the overall burn area is similar... where the fire blew through quickly and didn't incinerate absolutely everything in its path.

Someone mentioned the 2001 Star Fire... I went through/worked on Duncan Canyon earlier this year and it is recovering quite nicely... yes the trees are charred, but that's part of a normal forest.  It's not good that fires get so huge now (due to several factors), but ultimately, fire is part of a healthy forest. 

Duncan Canyon 2014:

And I wouldn't wish "Santa Ana" winds on anyone.... they are responsible for many of the tragic, gigantic fires in San Diego and Orange Counties.  

[Deb aka Resume Lady]

Where do you get these? I have season asthma and the air quality has really thrown me for a loop!

 

Lately I've been ordering them from Amazon because they're not always stocked in stores -- especially during fires. This is just one kind I recently purchased. http://www.amazon.co...=N95 niosh mask

 

Try Home Depot first: http://www.homedepot.com/s/n95?NCNI-5

 

 

I also took one on a recent vacation via plane -- just in case there was smoke. I'm not paranoid; just prepared.

[chris v]

The forest will grow back but the hidden relics from previous generations will not.

[mac_convert]

 

Lately I've been ordering them from Amazon because they're not always stocked in stores -- especially during fires. This is just one kind I recently purchased. http://www.amazon.co...=N95 niosh mask

 

Try Home Depot first: http://www.homedepot.com/s/n95?NCNI-5

 

 

I also took one on a recent vacation via plane -- just in case there was smoke. I'm not paranoid; just prepared.

Thanks I just ordered a pack!

[Deb aka Resume Lady]

Thanks I just ordered a pack!

 

I'm glad that helped. :D

[chris v]

Looks like they're back burning northwest of Slab Creek Reservoir now to protect Swansboro. Which in itself is super risky because of the high winds blowing to the west. Hopefully no sparks/embers from the back burn gets carried over the line. Lots of houses over there.

Lots and lots of history is going to get destroyed when that fire burns down cable point and the old log chute.

Also looks like the hotel ruins in Deerview are going to burn. Sooo sad.

[cw68]

The air quality in Folsom right now is 204. Please stay inside!

[Dave Burrell]

I saw some people out jogging in the smokey haze this morning, they must be nuts.