Lane Splitting....
#1
Posted 29 February 2008 - 11:46 AM
#2
Posted 29 February 2008 - 11:53 AM
In the incident you described, if the other driver squeezed you in, why do you articulate it as you hitting his tire? Didn't his tire hit you as he commenced this aggressive move?
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#3
Posted 29 February 2008 - 11:54 AM
What do I care if some person glides up between cars at an intersection? Unless he is going to the same place I am and he gets the last one of what ever it is I want because he lane split on me. Then I would probably chase him too.
Or I would hire our govenor to do it
#4
Posted 29 February 2008 - 11:55 AM
In the incident you described, if the other driver squeezed you in, why do you articulate it as you hitting his tire? Didn't his tire hit you as he commenced this aggressive move?
It's all in how you word it. Technically because he was almost stopped and turned his tire toward me to cut me off. His tire was sticking out and my footpeg hit it.
Why do you think it is unsafe?
#5
Posted 29 February 2008 - 11:56 AM
#6
Posted 29 February 2008 - 12:08 PM
Why do you think it is unsafe?
Because in many instances, particularly in busy traffic, the motorcycle isn 't visible until it is roaring up and past the driver of a car, leaving the car driver very little if no time to react. I've had motorcycles do this to me when the road curved and traffic is backed up (on the straight and narrow you can see and anticipate the motorcyclist who is moving up between lanes). As a driver, I'm counting on what I can see to plan my moves and predict what others will do. I cannot plan for what I cannot see. I've been in situations in which the road curves, and I'm signaling and moving to change lanes, and I see no motorcycle behind me (but cannot tell one is approaching because of the curve and other vehicle traffic)... but then as I'm changing lanes one whips up out of nowhere and splits lanes in the direction I'm moving toward.
As MSgt has point out, it is often really noisy and scary as well. I sometimes wonder how many accidents lane splitters cause because of scaring other drivers and forcing them to take last-minute actions; and of course, the lane splitters are down the road and gone, perhaps never even knowing they caused an accident.
I am sure some motorcyclists use reasonable care and caution when they split lanes, but too many don't, and I do believe it should be illegal.
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#7
Posted 29 February 2008 - 12:09 PM
Why do you think it is unsafe?
If you were that close to his car you were too close to his car.
And like others have mentioned, the sudden noise and sight of someone going by their elbow that close just to get ahead is not polite. Occasionally I like to hang my arm out the window at random times while waiting at a light.
But thanks for asking. At least you care.
#8
Posted 29 February 2008 - 12:12 PM
And like others have mentioned, the sudden noise and sight of someone going by their elbow that close just to get ahead is not polite. Occasionally I like to hang my arm out the window at random times while waiting at a light.
But thanks for asking. At least you care.
It was either hit his tire or run down the entire side of the car next to me. I'll take the tire. If I hit your arm because it's hanging out the window then theoretically I would also hit your mirror, which would put me too close to your car, so I wouldn't split.
#9
Posted 29 February 2008 - 12:28 PM
Did you have time to stop? If these are your two options, you were probably going too fast. I'm not defending the guy, but if you weren't going very fast, you'd likely had time to just stop and wait.
/just sayin.
For the record, I'm with Resume Lady. I think it's unsafe, but I don't think I'd ever do anything like retaliate.
I'm glad you care, definitely.
#10
Posted 29 February 2008 - 12:36 PM
/just sayin.
For the record, I'm with Resume Lady. I think it's unsafe, but I don't think I'd ever do anything like retaliate.
I'm glad you care, definitely.
I was already along side his car when he swerved hard at me. Because of the fact that I had to lean and all of a sudden negotiate a tighter than anticipated area, there was no time to brake. It's was a couple of seconds if not one for reaction time.
#11
Posted 29 February 2008 - 12:37 PM
Don't get me wrong, a lot of young riders on sport bikes are flat dangerous. They put themselves and everyone around them in risk because they don't ride safely. Generally you'll find that the safer the rider, the longer they've been riding. There are quite a few drivers out there that think they have the right to police our roads and freeways and show motorcycle riders no courtesy. They think they have the right to determine the flow and the speed of traffic, and they are not going to move to another lane regardless of the situation. If you're an experienced rider, you know what I'm talking about.
Like the saying goes: There are two kinds of riders; one's that have been down, and one's that are going to go down.
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#12
Posted 29 February 2008 - 12:39 PM
If you can do it, go for it. Just keep away from me so I don't kill you when I'm not looking.
#13
Posted 29 February 2008 - 12:43 PM
There is the red light or stopped freeway traffic where you are making your way to the front of the pack, because when it's time to go, any motorcycle should be able to out accelerate the cars and therefore in no way hinder the traffic that some view as the guy is taking cuts in front of me. The other is the slow traffic lane split, which by law, should only really be done when traffic is moving very slowly and even then, the motorcyclist needs to exercise extreme care and should not be "blowing by" others. One traffic is up to a "flowing" speed, the motorcyclist should resume occupying their own lane space in traffic and go with the flow. As I am a motorcyclist, I'm very familiar with the practice. The only time it bothers me, is usually when a Harley Davidson does it to me and I'm in my sports car and at the front of a redlight.
The Harley takes off puttering slowing me down as I tend to accelerate fairly quickly when the light turns green so I have open cruising room. When a rice burner does and takes off faster than me, it's no problem. So in my mind, if you're going to split lanes to get to the front of the pack. Have the decency to take off quickly so you don't hinder the flow of the automotive world.
#14
Posted 29 February 2008 - 12:53 PM
Lemme ask this: WTF is the point of doing it? Does it matter if you are the 10th vehicle in line or do you (motorcycle riders) ALWAYS need to be the first guy from red light to red light? Is that a safety isue? I see most riders do it as a "look what I can do while you're sitting in your car haha" thing. Great, you can speed to the next red light and I'm right behind you again, and again, and again.
I don't know the exact rules of how to properly split lanes but from what I see 99% of the riders aren't doing it properly. I am very surprised, however, that I don't see more accidents from this. I do know that if a guy takes my side mirror off while getting to the front of the line he'll have a Jeep up his arse at the next light.
#15
Posted 29 February 2008 - 12:53 PM
I would love to open my door at just the right moment and send lane splitters flying. I don't only because that would damage my door.
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