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[MSgt]

I wonder if they will open the bridge to foot traffic only for a while on opening day like they did on the new bridge. That would be nice and fun to walk across the new new bridge. We did that on opening day of the new bridge.

[eVader]

I wonder if they will open the bridge to foot traffic only for a while on opening day like they did on the new bridge. That would be nice and fun to walk across the new new bridge. We did that on opening day of the new bridge.

Great idea. Exercise, socializing and taking in new views from the bridge sounds like a lot of fun.

Anyone have connections to the city to suggest they do this again?

[Ram_it!]

I wonder if they will open the bridge to foot traffic only for a while on opening day like they did on the new bridge. That would be nice and fun to walk across the new new bridge. We did that on opening day of the new bridge.

or maybe open it up to street racers for the first day and let them get it out of their system. That looks like a solid quarter mile to me....

Or, open it up for burnouts.... I would be there, as a spectator and a participant.

[Dave Burrell]

Great idea. Exercise, socializing and taking in new views from the bridge sounds like a lot of fun.

Anyone have connections to the city to suggest they do this again?

The city is likely not open to any suggestions from the community about the Johnny Cash Bridge

[Bill Z]

The city is likely not open to any suggestions from the community about the Johnny Cash Bridge

I agree, but because they did the walk thing the last time, I wouldn't be surprised if Miklos wants to bask in the Glory of cutting the ribbon and have a large group of people with reporters filming the opening and let everyone walk across it. It will be a far better view than the Natoma Crossing IMO.

[supermom]

I wonder if they will open the bridge to foot traffic only for a while on opening day like they did on the new bridge. That would be nice and fun to walk across the new new bridge. We did that on opening day of the new bridge.

The bridge will have a pedestrian and bike access.

ps. I don't see how the bridge is going to make traffic on FA any better. or on Sutter.

My reasoning:

It took me 2 hours to drive 12 miles into town on Friday evening.

Why? There was not an accident or car pulled over--anywhere on FA From the 50 exit.

So-with my boredom I started timing.

when I finally got within eyeshot of the light at Fa and Blue ravine---I sat for 15. Before I finally got through the light. You wouldn't believe how many people turn right, flip a u-ey then turn right --just to get through that intersection.

So then it takes another 15 minutes to get to the light by glenn.

The whole 7 more minutes I sat at the front of the line at the intersection--not one car turned onto glenn.

So then I get stuck at Natomas and FA. Two cars turn right in the 10 minutes I sat with the car running in neutral and leg starting to get sore from the clutch (Yeah, it took me forever to finally decide to drop into neutral between inch crawling.)

So finally I get onto the big bridge. Guess what I saw? Cars en-masse trying to move to the left. They all wanted to turn left to Greenback at the next light. So, I started to slowly float forward as cars honked and played head games with other cars to my left. One guy in a silver lexus saw a car in the left turn lane coming up on his left and decided the guy was gonna try to swith to the right lane--so he swerved out then back into the lane and stopped about 1/2 an inch from the guy in front of him. stupid idiot.

Well, with half the traffic on FA after crossing the riley/greenback intersection I was starting to cruise at 15 mph. Whew-hoo--I could keep my car in second gear up the hill!!

So, now that we were getting close to Oak ave--cars were again clumping over to the left lane. Pretty soon they were blocking the right lane as they tried last ditch efforts to get to oak avenue parkway.

Finally clearing through that--the traffic halved again. No we were cruising toward Valley pine and Inwood.

Fives cars pulled left to Pine and one or two toward inwood. All on the left.

So now, I cruise throughthe inwood intersection with approximately 8 cars around me within sight of my front, and rear sight.

Instead of a bridge--Folsom should have invested that 40 million dollars into building a double decked over pass on Greenback to the sunrise intersection.

But, hell what do I know.

[a little bean]

We were sitting in that same traffic Friday night, and it made us think exactly the same thing. We live in old town and I'm still keeping my fingers crossed that it will give some amount of relief to the traffic, but I don't think it will be much unfortunately for all the reasons you just gave. I'm just hoping that people will drive out of their way to take the new bridge in hopes of avoiding the jam along FA.

[Dave Burrell]

I agree, but because they did the walk thing the last time, I wouldn't be surprised if Miklos wants to bask in the Glory of cutting the ribbon and have a large group of people with reporters filming the opening and let everyone walk across it. It will be a far better view than the Natoma Crossing IMO.

if its about basking in glory, Miklos will be all over it

[eVader]

The city is likely not open to any suggestions from the community about the Johnny Cash Bridge

Guess been there, done that with the naming of said bridge.

[eVader]

I agree, but because they did the walk thing the last time, I wouldn't be surprised if Miklos wants to bask in the Glory of cutting the ribbon and have a large group of people with reporters filming the opening and let everyone walk across it. It will be a far better view than the Natoma Crossing IMO.

A 20 spot that a reporter asks one of these questions:
- Thought it was being named after Johnny Cash.... what happened?
- You mean this crosses a river and doesn't actually cross a "lake" (or nearly empty reservoir)?

[old soldier]

The bridge will have a pedestrian and bike access.

ps. I don't see how the bridge is going to make traffic on FA any better. or on Sutter.

My reasoning:

It took me 2 hours to drive 12 miles into town on Friday evening.

Why? There was not an accident or car pulled over--anywhere on FA From the 50 exit.

So-with my boredom I started timing.

when I finally got within eyeshot of the light at Fa and Blue ravine---I sat for 15. Before I finally got through the light. You wouldn't believe how many people turn right, flip a u-ey then turn right --just to get through that intersection.

So then it takes another 15 minutes to get to the light by glenn.

The whole 7 more minutes I sat at the front of the line at the intersection--not one car turned onto glenn.

So then I get stuck at Natomas and FA. Two cars turn right in the 10 minutes I sat with the car running in neutral and leg starting to get sore from the clutch (Yeah, it took me forever to finally decide to drop into neutral between inch crawling.)

So finally I get onto the big bridge. Guess what I saw? Cars en-masse trying to move to the left. They all wanted to turn left to Greenback at the next light. So, I started to slowly float forward as cars honked and played head games with other cars to my left. One guy in a silver lexus saw a car in the left turn lane coming up on his left and decided the guy was gonna try to swith to the right lane--so he swerved out then back into the lane and stopped about 1/2 an inch from the guy in front of him. stupid idiot.

Well, with half the traffic on FA after crossing the riley/greenback intersection I was starting to cruise at 15 mph. Whew-hoo--I could keep my car in second gear up the hill!!

So, now that we were getting close to Oak ave--cars were again clumping over to the left lane. Pretty soon they were blocking the right lane as they tried last ditch efforts to get to oak avenue parkway.

Finally clearing through that--the traffic halved again. No we were cruising toward Valley pine and Inwood.

Fives cars pulled left to Pine and one or two toward inwood. All on the left.

So now, I cruise throughthe inwood intersection with approximately 8 cars around me within sight of my front, and rear sight.

Instead of a bridge--Folsom should have invested that 40 million dollars into building a double decked over pass on Greenback to the sunrise intersection.

But, hell what do I know.

how would you like to cross the country in a covered wagon, things could be worse

[4thgenFolsomite]

A 20 spot that a reporter asks one of these questions:
- Thought it was being named after Johnny Cash.... what happened?
- You mean this crosses a river and doesn't actually cross a "lake" (or nearly empty reservoir)?

And I, for one, will be there wearing my Johnny Cash Memorial Bridge t-shirt!!

[sty10k]

The bridge will have a pedestrian and bike access.

ps. I don't see how the bridge is going to make traffic on FA any better. or on Sutter.

My reasoning:

It took me 2 hours to drive 12 miles into town on Friday evening.

Your trip Friday was an anomoly.

I live in North Folsom too, and my commute everyday is up and down Folsom Blvd. My work is about 10 miles from my house, and I can count on one hand the number of times it has taken me longer than 40 minutes to get home in the afternoon (typically between 5:30 PM and 6:30 PM) in the last three years. Usually it is due to one of two things: an accident or the weather.

But that's just anecdotal, as is your experience. I have a feeling the engineers and planners who designed this bridge may have done a bit of research.

Think of it this way. Right now there are three river crossings from Hazel to the Dam. In a few weeks there will be four. How could having an extra bridge not relieve congestion?

[supermom]

Your trip Friday was an anomoly.

I live in North Folsom too, and my commute everyday is up and down Folsom Blvd. My work is about 10 miles from my house, and I can count on one hand the number of times it has taken me longer than 40 minutes to get home in the afternoon (typically between 5:30 PM and 6:30 PM) in the last three years. Usually it is due to one of two things: an accident or the weather.

But that's just anecdotal, as is your experience. I have a feeling the engineers and planners who designed this bridge may have done a bit of research.

Think of it this way. Right now there are three river crossings from Hazel to the Dam. In a few weeks there will be four. How could having an extra bridge not relieve congestion?

I can count on multiple hands how many times I have sat in traffic just in the last few months. yes, mostly due to traffic stressors. Like traffic, snow (skiers) going up 50-somehow congests FA, regular rainy day, the opening week of the Red Hawk Casino, accidents and just plain old lightrail stopping traffic on right lanes congests everything.

And I agree that the engineers researched quite a bit--but only in the scope of what they were told to look for.

I seriously doubt any engineers were told to look outside the box in order to relieve the worst traffic in folsom. Rather--they looked for a way to relieve traffic on one tiny little street that cried foul to the city commerce. And why not? Anyone who travels to city commerce did feel the crunch on Sutter.

Someday, there just might be a doubledeck road over FA. One way on each level.

But I don't think our major route planners are thinking long term.

This bridge was meant for a few outta towners. Not everyday, folsom dwellers who use the main roads to get home--here in Folsom.

[tgianco]

For those that were here before the original Dam Road closed, you know that traffic increased exponentially in Folsom, especially along Natoma at Riley and along Folsom Blvd at Greenback. Yes, this will greatly alleviate traffic for all those in Briggs Ranch, Empire Ranch, the Parkway and from El Dorado County to commute over to Roseville and vice versa. I can remember that we used to go to Roseville/ Rocklin a lot before the Dam Road closed and then hardly ever went there if we could avoid it after.

As for the City closing the bridge on opening day, what would that cost to do so in staffing an event? If there are no costs associated with a pedestrian event, fine. In these times, don't go wasting our tax money on a fluff, feel good event. There will be ped lanes if you want to walk across that badly.