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#1 camay2327

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Posted 26 August 2014 - 04:26 PM

Why isn't the media covering the killing of an unarmed white youth by a black police officer?

 

The case of Michael Brown, the unarmed, black teenager shot and killed by a white police officer, continues to make headlines weeks after the incident sparked riots and outrage in Ferguson, Missouri, and prompted a national debate.

 

Meanwhile, the case of Dillon Taylor, an unarmed, white 20-year-old shot and killed by a black policeman outside a 7-Eleven in Utah has received virtually no media coverage beyond local news reports.

 

The negligible coverage of the Taylor case by the mainstream media prompted many conservative critics to address the racial double standard. The Washington Times reports: "Talk-show host Rush Limbaugh blamed the discrepancy between the two cases on 'the liberal world view' that portrays whites as oppressors and blacks as victims."

 

The Times noted that CNN news host Jake Tapper acknowledged the discrepancy between the two cases, and noted that "the press often undercovers such topics as inner-city violence and the high rates of black-on-black crime."

 

According to Tapper, though, the Brown case is more newsworthy because of the national reaction it sparked, though some question whether the excessive media coverage of the violent protests actually served to fuel them.

 

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Posted 26 August 2014 - 05:13 PM

It seems articles like that are published for the sole purpose of fanning flames.

 

The similarities between the two cases are that they involved cops having confrontations with then killing young males, and it appears the cops and victims were of different races. 

 

That's where the similarities end, and the sensationalism begins.

 

The article asks why the media isn't covering the story, then cites the coverage by 3 major media organizations. Also, the story made national news the day it happened and was mentioned here on myfolsom 2 days later. It's been covered by every major network news organization.

 

Other facts: According to his family, Dillon Taylor was Hispanic, in much the same way that George Zimmerman was HIspanic. 

 

According to police, Taylor had an extensive criminal record.

 

Police were responding of reports of a man with a gun in his waistband and when the cops arrived, they surrounded him and ordered him to the ground. He grabbed at his waistband and the cops thought he was going for a gun. One of his witnesses says he was just pulling up his pants, while another said he was going for his cell phone.

 

It is true that there wasn't the same level of coverage, but consider this:

 

There was no suspicion nor accusation by the family or witnesses that the kid was shot or treated differently because he was white.

 

There were protests, but no violence. 

 

There is no history and no recent news events of white men being killed by black cops, but there have been quite a few recently with white cops killing black men.

 

I hope now it is clear that there is a difference in these two cases and that had there been the same kinds of accusations and violence in the aftermath, I guarantee there would have been national news crews there every night. 


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Posted 26 August 2014 - 06:04 PM

It seems articles like that are published for the sole purpose of fanning flames.

 

 

That's why I call Sharpton and Jackson poverty pimps. I knew it's disrespectful but dang it, it seems like they only show up to fan racial flames and make things worse.

 

Here's another murder that happened, but you don't see Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity showing up to fan racial flames.  Dang, I almost feel as if I need to shower after referring to those boobs like that... but you get the point.  This murder wasn't splashed across TV networks to cause racial divide and no white person in their right mind would riot over this but it is really messed up for this to happen. That jerk who did this needs to be executed.

 

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Posted 26 August 2014 - 07:24 PM

If I had to guess without knowing any details, I would say the white person was a thug and the police officer is of the highest caliber and a fine upstanding citizen.



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Posted 26 August 2014 - 07:29 PM

If I had to guess without knowing any details, I would say the white person was a thug and the police officer is of the highest caliber and a fine upstanding citizen.

Yea, Carl, I guess I would need to agree......


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Posted 26 August 2014 - 07:47 PM

 

That's why I call Sharpton and Jackson poverty pimps. I knew it's disrespectful but dang it, it seems like they only show up to fan racial flames and make things worse.

 

Here's another murder that happened, but you don't see Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity showing up to fan racial flames.  Dang, I almost feel as if I need to shower after referring to those boobs like that... but you get the point.  This murder wasn't splashed across TV networks to cause racial divide and no white person in their right mind would riot over this but it is really messed up for this to happen. That jerk who did this needs to be executed.

 

 

 

I agree that the jerk who did this needs to be executed. Murder is murder, and all murderers should face the same punishment. 

 

I watch Sean Hannity fairly often, and he indeed does post things like this. Then again, it is news.

 

The reason the Michael Brown incident is getting so much coverage, however, isn't because of networks wanting to fan the flames, but because of the accusations, protests and violence that followed. It would be wrong for them to ignore the story. It is news.

 

 

If I had to guess without knowing any details, I would say the white person was a thug and the police officer is of the highest caliber and a fine upstanding citizen.

 

It's easy to believe that is the case if you sit where you do, and I am more likely to believe the same based on my perspective.

 

If you were an inner-city black male, however, your perspective might be different. There have been far too many cases where black men have been beaten or killed by white cops, so it was easy for the citizens of Ferguson to believe this was another of those cases. 

 

Some may now believe differently, but others are going to hold on to the 'unfairness' in their opinion, because the kid was unarmed and had not committed a crime for which the penalty was death.

 

The reality, however, is that it is a tragedy which could have been avoided.


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Posted 26 August 2014 - 08:49 PM

The litmus test for media is to reverse the races, then compare how they would report a given event.



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Posted 26 August 2014 - 09:01 PM

It's easy to believe that is the case if you sit where you do, and I am more likely to believe the same based on my perspective.

 

If you were an inner-city black male, however, your perspective might be different. There have been far too many cases where black men have been beaten or killed by white cops, so it was easy for the citizens of Ferguson to believe this was another of those cases. 

 

Some may now believe differently, but others are going to hold on to the 'unfairness' in their opinion, because the kid was unarmed and had not committed a crime for which the penalty was death.

 

The reality, however, is that it is a tragedy which could have been avoided.

 

I am biased; I hold police and firefighters in the highest regard.  But don't get me wrong, I don't believe they are perfect.  Case in point is the So Cal CHP officer who beat a lady pretty badly and other than a passing motorist catching on his cell phone, I'm guessing he would have gotten off free and clear.  His incident report said nothing of the severe beating, of course.

 

There seems to be something insidious about what I hope is a very small percentage of police where they are just bad.  I don't know if it is the pressure of the job or a power issue that realistically should prevent that person from serving in the police force.  My guess is when we hear of bad things happening that involve the police, it is caused by this small percentage of bad cops.

 

I was wondering today how much of the "black" problem we see boils down to respect, or the lack thereof.  I just see it as helpful that an officer would roll up behind some youth and yell "get the #^%^#% on the sidewalk."  A simple, "could you guys please walk on the sidewalk" would have worked just as well and likely have prevented the whole thing from spiraling out of control.  Respect needs to flow both directions, which I don't see happening any time soon.



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Posted 27 August 2014 - 07:45 AM



The litmus test for media is to reverse the races, then compare how they would report a given event.

 

I know how they would report it. They would report it as it should be. They would say, 'Another Unarmed Black Youth Killed by  White Cops'. It recently happened in Missouri, and there has been a spate of such incidents across the country.

 

Definitely newsworthy.

 

 



 

I am biased; I hold police and firefighters in the highest regard.  But don't get me wrong, I don't believe they are perfect.  Case in point is the So Cal CHP officer who beat a lady pretty badly and other than a passing motorist catching on his cell phone, I'm guessing he would have gotten off free and clear.  His incident report said nothing of the severe beating, of course.

 

There seems to be something insidious about what I hope is a very small percentage of police where they are just bad.  I don't know if it is the pressure of the job or a power issue that realistically should prevent that person from serving in the police force.  My guess is when we hear of bad things happening that involve the police, it is caused by this small percentage of bad cops.

 

I was wondering today how much of the "black" problem we see boils down to respect, or the lack thereof.  I just see it as helpful that an officer would roll up behind some youth and yell "get the #^%^#% on the sidewalk."  A simple, "could you guys please walk on the sidewalk" would have worked just as well and likely have prevented the whole thing from spiraling out of control.  Respect needs to flow both directions, which I don't see happening any time soon.

 

I agree, but again, it is about perspective.

 

In much of America, kids are taught that the cops are there to protect and serve and can be trusted. In much of black America, kids are taught that the cops are the bad guys who will stop, harass, search, frame, beat, arrest or shoot for no reason other than that you are black.

 

Years ago I saw a statement, and I don't recall who said it, but it went something like, 'Black parents have to have a conversation that white parents don't; what to do when you are selected by the police for detainment.' 

 

That's because of the pervasive belief in the black community that it is bound to happen to every black person in America, but not to whites.

 

I've heard many people say, 'It happens to us white folks too!', and cite incidents where it has, but they often admit to have been exhibiting a look (young, long hair, different clothing) or behavior (loitering, loud music), and there are exceptions to that, where as black folks tend to believe that the only look you need is dark skin and the only behavior needed is that you be in sight of cops. 

 

That's not to say that these perceptions are accurate or not, but they are perceptions held.

 

Over 40 years ago, Richard Pryor used it as part of his comedy routine:

 

"Cops put a hurtin’ on your ___, man. You know, they really degrade you. White folks don’t believe that [bleep], they don’t believe cops degrade.

 

'Ah, come on, those beatings, those people are resisting arrest. I'm tired of this harassment of police officers.’

 

That’s 'cause the police live in your neighborhood, see, and you be knowin' 'em as Officer Timpson. ’Hello, Officer Timpson, going bowling tonight? Yes, nice Pinto you have.'

 

N*ggers don’t know them like that. See, white folks get a ticket, they pull over, 'Hey, Officer, yes, glad to be of help, cheerio!'

 

A n*gger got to be talkin’ 'bout, ’I am reaching into my pocket for my license! ’Cause I don't wanna be no [bleep] accident!’

 

Police degrade. I don’t know, you know, it’s — often you wonder why a n*gger don’t go completely mad. No, you do. You get your [ bleep ] together, you work all week, right? And then you get dressed and you make — maybe say you can’t make $125 a week, you get $80, if you’re lucky. Right? And you go out, get clean and be driving with this old lady going out to a club, and the police pull over. 'Get out of the car! There was a robbery! A n*gger looked just like you! Put your hands up, take your pants down, spread your cheeks!' Now, what n*gger feel like having fun after that? ’Let’s just go home, baby. You go home and beat your kids and [bleep]. You goin’ take that [bleep] out on somebody.’

 

I always found that more sad than funny. 

 

Many people who haven't had that experience say,  'If you've done nothing wrong, you have nothing to worry about'

 

Well, just this week, the evening before the Emmy Awards, a black USC and Harvard-educated TV producer was having dinner in a Beverly Hills restaurant prior to attending a pre-Emmy party. He left alone to feed his parking meter and was suddenly surrounded by cops, who wouldn't allow him to ask what was going on, handcuffed, searched and arrested. When told it was for armed robbery of a nearby bank, he asked that they check the restaurant he had just left and to review the tapes from the bank. They refused, and held him until midnight, before releasing him without charge.

 

This is the kind of event that the black community points to and says, 'it doesn't matter if you just stole a bunch of cigars or if you went to Harvard, you're black and that's enough'

 

This is why it makes the news.


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Posted 27 August 2014 - 08:26 AM

 

I am biased; I hold police and firefighters in the highest regard.  But don't get me wrong, I don't believe they are perfect.  Case in point is the So Cal CHP officer who beat a lady pretty badly and other than a passing motorist catching on his cell phone, I'm guessing he would have gotten off free and clear.  His incident report said nothing of the severe beating, of course.

 

There seems to be something insidious about what I hope is a very small percentage of police where they are just bad.  I don't know if it is the pressure of the job or a power issue that realistically should prevent that person from serving in the police force.  My guess is when we hear of bad things happening that involve the police, it is caused by this small percentage of bad cops.

 

I was wondering today how much of the "black" problem we see boils down to respect, or the lack thereof.  I just see it as helpful that an officer would roll up behind some youth and yell "get the #^%^#% on the sidewalk."  A simple, "could you guys please walk on the sidewalk" would have worked just as well and likely have prevented the whole thing from spiraling out of control.  Respect needs to flow both directions, which I don't see happening any time soon.

Also "Could you please return the box of stolen cigars to the store and apologize for pushing and threatening the store employee"



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Posted 27 August 2014 - 10:35 AM



 

I know how they would report it. They would report it as it should be. They would say, 'Another Unarmed Black Youth Killed by  White Cops'. It recently happened in Missouri, and there has been a spate of such incidents across the country.

 

Definitely newsworthy.

 

If the races had been reversed in SLC, the media hype would be up front and center for a long time to come, complete with indictments of society and calls for action and "justice" (i.e. revenge and a lynch mob).  But they should absolutely NOT have reported it as "another unarmed black youth killed by white cops", because of the circumstances involved, which would once again be swept under the rug by such a provocative headline.  That's the whole problem.  It would simply continue the MSM storyline of "white bad, black good", without taking into account what actually happened, until it was too late, and everyone's perception was fixed.  As things really happened, it did not turn into a story the about trigger-happy police, just as Ferguson should not have turned into that.

 

[I wrote some more about all this, but then deleted it - as you say, perception is truth, so what's the point?]



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Posted 27 August 2014 - 10:58 AM

Also "Could you please return the box of stolen cigars to the store and apologize for pushing and threatening the store employee"

 

We don't know all the information, but I believe the police chief said the initial contact was due solely to them walking down the middle of the street.  After that encounter ended the officer heard the radio report of the theft and realized the two he just "talked" with matched the description and one of them had cigars in his hand.  He circled back and it was then the fatal encounter started.



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Posted 27 August 2014 - 11:42 AM



 

If the races had been reversed in SLC, the media hype would be up front and center for a long time to come, complete with indictments of society and calls for action and "justice" (i.e. revenge and a lynch mob).  But they should absolutely NOT have reported it as "another unarmed black youth killed by white cops", because of the circumstances involved, which would once again be swept under the rug by such a provocative headline.  That's the whole problem.  It would simply continue the MSM storyline of "white bad, black good", without taking into account what actually happened, until it was too late, and everyone's perception was fixed.  As things really happened, it did not turn into a story the about trigger-happy police, just as Ferguson should not have turned into that.

 

[I wrote some more about all this, but then deleted it - as you say, perception is truth, so what's the point?]

 

It's ok for us to disagree. Have you ever changed your mind, or changed someone else's mind, or just felt better about speaking your peace?

 

You would be correct in your assumption that that one headline would not have been sufficient, but for a news outlet to ignore the fact that there has been an increase in publicized encounters where blacks have been beaten or killed by white cops would have been an error at best. It is a valid and important story line. We can't address the causes without acknowledging the problem. 


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Posted 27 August 2014 - 12:00 PM

I think Steve is right about the differences about what whites are taught to believe about cops versus blacks. A white friend of mine got into a big fight with their sibling, who was drunk and out of control, at a hotel. Their sibling started to cause damage to my friend so she yelled for someone to call the cops to help her. Long story not pertinent to this conversation, but she got arrested, not the drunk sister. When my friend was being booked she asked the booking officer, who was black, how this happened since she was the one who asked for the cops to be called. The officer looked at my friend and said, "Stupid little white girl, you think they cops are your friends. Your Momma should have taught you better."

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Posted 27 August 2014 - 12:11 PM

 

It's ok for us to disagree. Have you ever changed your mind, or changed someone else's mind, or just felt better about speaking your peace?

 

You would be correct in your assumption that that one headline would not have been sufficient, but for a news outlet to ignore the fact that there has been an increase in publicized encounters where blacks have been beaten or killed by white cops would have been an error at best. It is a valid and important story line. We can't address the causes without acknowledging the problem. 

 

I've made peace with disagreeing, but I have never seen anyone's mind be changed over this kind of topic.  Speaking my piece ends up either being ignored or starting fights, and I can live without that.  (The last time I posted a long comment, your responses to me seemed to entirely miss the points I was making, and I think it's because of different perceptions that won't go away or be changed.)

 

I don't think there is a real problem, at least in the way it's being portrayed by the media.  I would explain why I think that, but see above.

 

I think the real story is still the ongoing violence by black teens at such a high rate, including against whites because of racial motives.  That's the real problem.






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