Jump to content






Photo
- - - - -

Lake Natoma Waterfront & Trail Access


  • Please log in to reply
122 replies to this topic

#46 maestro

maestro

    Superstar

  • Premium Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 744 posts

Posted 29 July 2013 - 01:37 PM

SAVE THE AMERICAN RIVER ASSOCIATION

Guardians of the American River and Parkway since 1961
 
NEWS RELEASE Contact: Stephen Green
Vice President
916-436-6961
 
SARA FILES SUIT AGAINST FOLSOM OVER PLAN TO PAVE THE LAKE NATOMA SHORELINE
 
Save the American River Association (SARA) filed suit in Sacramento County Superior Court over the City of Folsom's plan to pave a trail on the Lake Natoma Shoreline.
 
"The city did a minimal assessment of the project's environmental impacts rather than a comprehensive Environmental Impact Report," said SARA Vice President Stephen Green."The project fails to meet the minimum legal requirements of the California Environmental Quality Act, the American River Parkway Plan, and State Planning and Zoning Law.
 
"SARA is concerned about the environmental impacts -- especially those associated with aesthetics, biological resources, recreation and land-use planning," Green said.
 
Dan Winkelman, a Folsom resident, retired State Park Ranger, and author of the book "Lake Natoma," added that the project would dramatically alter "this treasured piece of wilderness in our city.This is just the first segment of the city's plans to take over and develop Lake Natoma."
 
Defendants in the suit are the City of Folsom and the City Council which approved the project on June 11.The project is called the Lake Natoma Waterfront Trail Enhancement Project.
 
The Project would be located on U.S. Bureau of Reclamation land managed as a park by the state Dept. of Parks and Recreation.A small portion of the trail would be on city property.
 
The project site would extend from the intersection of Gold Lake Dr. at the top of the Lake Natoma Crossing Bridge down to the Lake Natoma waterfront, and follow the existing trail along the waterfront to where it reconnects to the existing paved bike trail about 1,000 feet south of the Lake Natoma Crossing Bridge.
 
Green noted that the site currently is designated for Low Intensity Recreation/Conservation.The proposed project would provide for high-density recreational use.Existing habitat would be removed and pavement would cover roots of historic Oak Trees.
 
"SARA board members are especially concerned that the project includes lighting of native oak trees and bollards in the State Park," Green said."Yet the park is closed to visitors after dark."
 
In the past, the City of Folsom has approved projects that cause light pollution in the Lake Natoma area.When the Folsom Auto Mall was approved, area residents were assured that there would be no light intrusion into the lake and State Park.From the day the mall opened, light has been intruding in and around the lake -- and directly into a Fair Oaks neighborhood across the lake.
 
The City of Folsom has a long history of abuses of the Lake Natoma environment, Green added.
 
The City of Folsom has been fined for the release of sewage that has flowed into Lake Natoma.Sewage releases still occur in the city when there is heavy rainfall.
 
For years, the City of Folsom and its contractors allowed toxic runoff from the Folsom Corporation Yard Landfill in violation of the city’s NPDES Permit, Green said.
 
Previously, the City of Folsom destroyed habitat in and around the landfill site for a federally listed threatened species, the Valley Elderberry Longhorn Beetle (desmocerus californicus dimorphus) , Green continued.
 
The failure to Prepare an Environmental Impact Report for the project violates state law and constitute a prejudicial abuse of discretion, Green concluded.

____________________________________________________________________________________________

 

 

 

    If you wish to make a tax-deductible donation to SARA to protect the American River, go to www.sarariverwatch.org



#47 MSgt

MSgt

    Living Legend

  • Moderator
  • 3,405 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Natoma Station
  • Interests:Camping
    Reading
    Fishing
    Read and discuss about spiritual matters

Posted 30 July 2013 - 11:33 AM

My Grandson and I were hiking around in this area.  We were both wishing there were a paved trail down to the river.  Also, It makes no sense to me to have a bike trail going around the lake that stops at the historic district.  At a minimum the bike trail needs to be completed to the foot bridge.

6dfy.png



#48 ducky

ducky

    untitled

  • Premium Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 9,115 posts
  • Gender:Female

Posted 30 July 2013 - 11:35 AM

My Grandson and I were hiking around in this area.  We were both wishing there were a paved trail down to the river.  Also, It makes no sense to me to have a bike trail going around the lake that stops at the historic district.  At a minimum the bike trail needs to be completed to the foot bridge.

6dfy.png

 

Cute pic.

 

I thought they said they couldn't complete it to the foot bridge because of a ravine.



#49 4thgenFolsomite

4thgenFolsomite

    Hopeless Addict

  • Premium Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,979 posts

Posted 30 July 2013 - 11:56 AM

The powerhouse is an Nationally Registered Historical Landmark and an official state park and it changes the historic integrity to punch a bike trail through there.  The current plan, if  I am correct, is to have the bike trail added along the north lane of Leidesdorff in front of Karen's Bakery so it connects to the bike trail over at Riley leading down to the truss bridge.

 

by the way, you should be able to find a good trail there already.  I have walked it many times.


Knowing the past helps deciphering the future.

#50 maestro

maestro

    Superstar

  • Premium Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 744 posts

Posted 30 July 2013 - 12:22 PM

There are many easy and complete accesses to the river, including brand new handicapped accesses which cost a lot of money because they were done correctly.

 

The ravine is a geological feature.     Ownership  involves State of CA which does not believe in putting concrete and masonry retaining walls on every inch of  riverbank below a dam.       State Parks investigated crossing this natural watercourse.    It is the WRONG place to interfere with a watercourse.   Besides the natural ravine filters the water flowing into the river.      It is critical to clean runoff.   You don't concrete over waterways.

 

Isn't the reason people enjoy that ravine   its natural state and beauty?? 

 

Why would anyone want to put over a half mile of concrete and asphalt on a riverbank which directly below a dam, and subject to natural water runoff????      To get grant money, under-improve (then keep the change)???    Who believes the city?

 

 



#51 Robert Gary

Robert Gary

    Superstar

  • Premium Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 981 posts

Posted 05 August 2013 - 02:54 PM

Darth Lefty, on 20 Jun 2013 - 4:10 PM, said:snapback.png

Yes they do, so what's the point of it here?  Avoiding the ten bucks, maybe.  Your pejoratively-decribed "ADA ramp" is actually a nice little walking trail with some scenic overlooks, which is nice, I'm sure people will enjoy it.  Like I said, I don't object to it.  But it's not really a path to the boat ramp, except in a roundabout way.  I suppose with a paddleboard or a kayak the steps would be all right, with a canoe on your shoulders it would be a real pain.

 

The plan shows a kayak/bike rack, that sounds like fun.  Anyone know where I can get a kayak/bike?

 

Darth,

 

I've carried a canoe and 50 lb pack up to 5 miles daily on trips for portaging. And that is unimproved swampy, mosquito infested paths. Not much sympathy from me. :)

 

-Robert



#52 chris v

chris v

    Living Legend

  • Premium Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,373 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Broadstone

Posted 05 August 2013 - 08:51 PM


Darth Lefty, on 20 Jun 2013 - 4:10 PM, said:snapback.png

 
Darth,
 
I've carried a canoe and 50 lb pack up to 5 miles daily on trips for portaging. And that is unimproved swampy, mosquito infested paths. Not much sympathy from me. :)
 
-Robert


I've done some pretty hefty portages with my kayak too. Also have actually parked on the road near bicycles plus and carried my kayak down to the water in the area being spoken about and it sucks. Yeah, I didn't have to pay the launch fee, but its just not a great area to launch from.

#53 ducky

ducky

    untitled

  • Premium Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 9,115 posts
  • Gender:Female

Posted 14 May 2014 - 07:47 AM

The suit against the waterfront trail project was struck down.  The project will go forward.



#54 ducky

ducky

    untitled

  • Premium Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 9,115 posts
  • Gender:Female

Posted 14 May 2014 - 11:34 AM

 

 

I know a lot of people are not going to be happy with this decision, However i'm looking forward to having an easily accessible access to lake Natoma from the Historic District to enjoy with my family.

 

I understand that.  I just hope they leave things as natural as possible.



#55 Steve Heard

Steve Heard

    Owner

  • Admin
  • 13,752 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 14 May 2014 - 03:34 PM

 

 

I know a lot of people are not going to be happy with this decision, However i'm looking forward to having an easily accessible access to lake Natoma from the Historic District to enjoy with my family.

 

 

 

I understand that.  I just hope they leave things as natural as possible.

 

I too am looking forward to it. I expect it will become a popular asset to our community.

 

I know a lot of people are opposed to it and think it should be left natural, but someone reminded me that it's not a natural lake, that it was created by the dam, and its creation flooded the site of the historic Negro Bar settlement.

 

I do hope and expect that it will be well executed and that the residents and citizens will respect it.


Steve Heard

Folsom Real Estate Specialist

EXP Realty

BRE#01368503

Owner - MyFolsom.com

916 718 9577 


#56 chris v

chris v

    Living Legend

  • Premium Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,373 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Broadstone

Posted 14 May 2014 - 03:55 PM

It's going to be absolutely covered in graffiti as soon as it opens.

#57 Darth Lefty

Darth Lefty

    Disco Infiltrator

  • No Politics!
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,578 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:The OV
  • Interests:Volunteer with a service club like Active 20-30, and you CAN make a difference!

Posted 14 May 2014 - 04:02 PM

It's going to be absolutely covered in graffiti as soon as it opens.

If you call them petroglyphs then it's natural and historic and you can feel good about it


"I enjoy a bit of cooking, and this has always worried me. But it's OK. I only like it because it allows me to play with knives." - James May

Genesis 49:16-17
http://www.active2030folsom.org

#58 ducky

ducky

    untitled

  • Premium Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 9,115 posts
  • Gender:Female

Posted 14 May 2014 - 04:13 PM

 

 

 

I too am looking forward to it. I expect it will become a popular asset to our community.

 

I know a lot of people are opposed to it and think it should be left natural, but someone reminded me that it's not a natural lake, that it was created by the dam, and its creation flooded the site of the historic Negro Bar settlement.

 

I do hope and expect that it will be well executed and that the residents and citizens will respect it.

 

Your last line is what I'm hoping for, too.  

When I said leave it "natural," what I meant was the less concrete the better.  I'm hoping that if they replace vegetation it isn't with parking-lot -variety shrubs.  They can take out all the poison oak they want.  Even if that stuff is natural, I won't miss it.



#59 Lindke

Lindke

    Netizen

  • Registered Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 77 posts

Posted 14 May 2014 - 05:53 PM

 

Your last line is what I'm hoping for, too.  

When I said leave it "natural," what I meant was the less concrete the better.  I'm hoping that if they replace vegetation it isn't with parking-lot -variety shrubs.  They can take out all the poison oak they want.  Even if that stuff is natural, I won't miss it.

  

 

I hope the City of Folsom Political Staff reconsiders........another action they did not ask the Citizens of Folsom.

 

All for leaving it as is.       All they have to do is dump some recycled bark to the trail and install a Dog Poop Dispenser at the river's edge.    

 

The view from the Northside of the river is going to be ruined.       We are going to be looking at a Hotel Parking Lot.

 

H9LkwRA.jpg



#60 MSgt

MSgt

    Living Legend

  • Moderator
  • 3,405 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Natoma Station
  • Interests:Camping
    Reading
    Fishing
    Read and discuss about spiritual matters

Posted 14 May 2014 - 07:23 PM

I'm with Steve and Ducky on this one.






1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users