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[Steve Heard]

 

From the City of Folsom:

 

“Due to the uncertainty of the statewide drought, Governor Jerry Brown issued Executive Order B-36-15 calling for an extension of urban water use restrictions through October 2016. Emergency drought regulations have been adjusted, and the State Water Board recently reduced Folsom’s target from 32 percent down to 28 percent.

The move comes after the State Water Board incorporated recommendations by the City of Folsom, the Regional Water Authority and other regional water agencies to include conservation adjustment factors, like climate and growth that play a role in a community’s water use.

 

The City of Folsom will continue to advocate for lower water conservation standards due to the high volume of releases at Folsom Lake by the U.S. Bureau of Reclamation for flood control purposes.

 

While the target has eased for Folsom water customers, it’s important to continue conserving water according to the state-mandated conservation target until the State modifies or removes those restrictions. Learn more about the City of Folsom’s water conservation and rebate programs.”

 

Note that Folsom Lake is currently at 108% of normal for this time of year, and during the month of March, the Bureau of Reclamation, operators of Folsom Dam, have released enough water down the river to supply Folsom for 4 years. This is due to current regulations designed to prevent flooding, in case of rapid snow melt.

 

[2 Aces]

It still amazes me regarding the amout of good water that we waste/release. I know the reason for it, but it's still amazing nonetheless. And heaven forbid Calif invest in more water storage to reflect population growth...that would upset the environmentalist loons.

[Sandman]

Well I guess the new spillway can be viewed as water storage.  My understanding is if it was currently up and running we wouldn't be seeing the kind of releases that have occurred the last couple of weeks.

 

But don't be fooled people...  All that water were being told to save in Folsom is still going to SO50 construction.

[2 Aces]

But don't be fooled people...  All that water were being told to save in Folsom is still going to SO50 construction.

Oh, I don't think anyone is fooled. The only *fools* are the 5 Folsom City Council members...and, yes, that includes the mayor...unfortunately.

But, hey, at least they got big campaign donations from developers!!

[Carl G]

This is from the governor...  The real goal is to put drought water restrictions on us permanently so our water can then be shipped to So Cal...  This has nothing to do with SO50, but rather south of the grapevine.

[Steve Heard]

Well I guess the new spillway can be viewed as water storage.  My understanding is if it was currently up and running we wouldn't be seeing the kind of releases that have occurred the last couple of weeks.

 

But don't be fooled people...  All that water were being told to save in Folsom is still going to SO50 construction.

 

The conservation measures were ordered statewide. We don't get to keep, nor redirect any savings. Even before the conservation orders, we were using about 2/3 of our allotment, and the South of 50 project will use considerably less than that remaining third, so nothing has changed there.  

[2 Aces]

This is from the governor...  The real goal is to put drought water restrictions on us permanently so our water can then be shipped to So Cal...  This has nothing to do with SO50, but rather south of the grapevine.

It's hard to know how much of last year's conservation measures were to bolster the scandalous Folsom City Council declaration that "there's plenty of water for South50", and how much of the current conservation measures are "to send more water south of the grapevine". Too many mixed messages by too many Govt entities. Many people feel like they're being *jerked around*.

And as far as being put on permanent, strict water restrictions so others can benefit, that takes a lot of gall !! Classic Govt.

[caligirlz]

This is from the governor...  The real goal is to put drought water restrictions on us permanently so our water can then be shipped to So Cal...  This has nothing to do with SO50, but rather south of the grapevine.

and re-wild the agribelt central valley back to desert. 

 

Congressman Devin Nunes produced the video Dead Harvest. This is what it's all about. 

http://www.yourcentr...eres-in-visalia

 

[Carl G]

I saw an interesting story today where an investigative reported was explaining that Saudi Arabia purchased quite a bit a land in So Cal and Arizona to grow alfalfa.  The gist of the story is that SA has used up their groundwater and since it is extremely expensive to ship, they are growing crops overseas to ship back home and in effect shipping water that way.  They have purchased land where there is no limit to the amount of water they can pump.  I'm reminded of the aliens in Independence Day who move from planet to planet and use up all the natural resources.  Once gone, they move on.

[ducky]

I saw an interesting story today where an investigative reported was explaining that Saudi Arabia purchased quite a bit a land in So Cal and Arizona to grow alfalfa.  The gist of the story is that SA has used up their groundwater and since it is extremely expensive to ship, they are growing crops overseas to ship back home and in effect shipping water that way.  They have purchased land where there is no limit to the amount of water they can pump.  I'm reminded of the aliens in Independence Day who move from planet to planet and use up all the natural resources.  Once gone, they move on.

 

My question is, if the water is available for those kind of crops in those desert areas, why aren't we growing the crops and selling it to Saudi Arabia?  Surely, they have enough of our money to afford it.

[Carl G]

 

My question is, if the water is available for those kind of crops in those desert areas, why aren't we growing the crops and selling it to Saudi Arabia?  Surely, they have enough of our money to afford it.

 

Sounded to me to be the classic "cutting the middleman out" situation.

[ducky]

 

Sounded to me to be the classic "cutting the middleman out" situation.

 

I'm sure it is.

I think you aptly described it with your Independence Day analogy.

Last year there was an article about how Saudi Arabia was a big wheat exporter until they ran their wells dry.  That is why they are forced to come here to grow crops. It is too expensive for them to irrigate with desalinization.  The article was from revealnews.org that was titled, "What California can learn from Saudi Arabia's water mystery."

[slowthegrowth]

Well..we could be like Stockton where they are now increasing the water rates ($) because they took in way less money this past year when residents were forced to dramatically cut their usage.
So....they now get to pay more...because they saved water.

[Steve Heard]

Well..we could be like Stockton where they are now increasing the water rates ($) because they took in way less money this past year when residents were forced to dramatically cut their usage.
So....they now get to pay more...because they saved water.

I believe the same thing happened to Roseville.

 

The ordered a water use reduction. The people complied. Less money was coming in. They raised rates. Now, the residents pay more for less water!  

[4thgenFolsomite]

My lawn is drying out. Does anyone know what the current restrictions are? Is it by address and how many days, which day?