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#1 The Average Joe

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 06:04 PM

Those of you who think the government is the answer when there is an "emergency" read THIS.

What I find troubling, is that when I might need my guns most (a real state of emergency), I would be prohibited from having them with me if I leave my house. And no sales of alcohol? On superbowl weekend? What purpose does this serve? Basically, the residents were held hostage in their own homes by an arbitrary "emergency" declaration for snow!

Surely you can see the potential issues laws like this raise...

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 06:53 PM

Amazing....! Just when you might need a weapon for self defense (when 1st responders are not available) they take away your 2nd amendment rights....! I would not comply with that law if I had my concealed carry permit for that area. I would be willing to guess she is not a Republican or a Libertarian....? Chris

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 09:15 PM

Why on earth was a state of emergency declared for snow? ... from 12am to 5am? that makes no sense at all

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 10:26 PM

QUOTE (davburr @ Feb 8 2010, 09:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why on earth was a state of emergency declared for snow? ... from 12am to 5am? that makes no sense at all


Hence my distress. See, many of our constitutionally guaranteed rights fly right out the window once a state of emergency is declared. While that may indeed be a proper response in an actual emergency, the arbitrary nature of when one can declare such an emergency and the mandated governmental responses that follow regardless of common sense are deeply troubling to me.

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 08:20 AM

Guess the people who live there should change the law if they don't like it, which it sounds like they don't-given all the threats received by the Police Chief.

I wonder how old the law is?

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 09:24 AM

QUOTE (FolsomVW @ Feb 9 2010, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Guess the people who live there should change the law if they don't like it, which it sounds like they don't-given all the threats received by the Police Chief.

I wonder how old the law is?

The law shouldn't be changed by a vote of the people, it should be struck down as it is in violation of our constitution. The bill of rights can not be subjugated during "states of emergency".
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Posted 09 February 2010 - 09:26 AM

QUOTE (Bill Z @ Feb 9 2010, 09:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The law shouldn't be changed by a vote of the people, it should be struck down as it is in violation of our constitution. The bill of rights can not be subjugated during "states of emergency".


Amen brother! Glad to see there at least a few people who understand how wrong this is!

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 09:40 AM

QUOTE (The Dude @ Feb 9 2010, 09:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Amen brother! Glad to see there at least a few people who understand how wrong this is!

Yeah, I wonder what FFG would say if he was still around. I know he would deny that there are those who still want to take our guns away from us, despite continual evidence like this that pops up.
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Posted 09 February 2010 - 05:36 PM

QUOTE (Bill Z @ Feb 9 2010, 09:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, I wonder what FFG would say if he was still around. I know he would deny that there are those who still want to take our guns away from us, despite continual evidence like this that pops up.

He would probably wonder how old the law was.

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 07:50 PM

QUOTE (mylo @ Feb 9 2010, 05:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He would probably wonder how old the law was.



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Posted 09 February 2010 - 08:58 PM

QUOTE (Bill Z @ Feb 9 2010, 09:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, I wonder what FFG would say if he was still around. I know he would deny that there are those who still want to take our guns away from us, despite continual evidence like this that pops up.


Bill, I get the feeling he's not gone...... A certain new member here gives me that deja vu feeling all over again. Chris

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 10:18 PM

QUOTE (Bill Z @ Feb 9 2010, 09:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The law shouldn't be changed by a vote of the people, it should be struck down as it is in violation of our constitution. The bill of rights can not be subjugated during "states of emergency".

Are you sure? Withe the exceptions provided the executive branch on war powers and with such protections as habeas corpus in a time of war, it doesn't seem that much of a stretch to also allow the similar in states of emergency. Isn't marshal law an option still in such circumstances. It would have the same temporary result on the Bill of Rights, don't you think?

Are there any lawyers around here?

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 11:35 PM

QUOTE (FolsomVW @ Feb 9 2010, 10:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are there any lawyers around here?



Or are there any Frogs around here....?

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 10:54 AM

QUOTE (FolsomVW @ Feb 9 2010, 10:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are you sure? Withe the exceptions provided the executive branch on war powers and with such protections as habeas corpus in a time of war, it doesn't seem that much of a stretch to also allow the similar in states of emergency. Isn't marshal law an option still in such circumstances. It would have the same temporary result on the Bill of Rights, don't you think?

Are there any lawyers around here?

I'm not a lawyer, but it seems to me, especially under marshall law, the 2nd ammendment is more important. Marshall law should only be declared if we are under attack, it would behoove our nations security if the civilians could also shoot back. In a state of emergency when the police can not come to the rescue, it's even more important that civilians can use their weapons for self defense. Please explain how or why there should be any such law that deprives me of my right to protect my life, my families life, etc from harm during an emergency. Why on earth when I might need it most, should my 2nd ammendment rights be violated.

I look forward to your well thought out explanation.
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Posted 12 February 2010 - 06:43 PM

QUOTE (Chris @ Feb 9 2010, 11:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Or are there any Frogs around here....?

Wait a second, I thought you were banned too Chris! I guess not... I just figured that starting 15 consecutive threads about climategate was in some way a violation of the forum rules. I guess not...

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