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#61 LexingtonRez

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 12:01 PM

And just to better define Section 8 from the building owners perspective, they are reimbursed for the amount of the reduced rent.  In addition, they are given federal tax credits for building the property.  So, there's really no downside for the builder-quite the opposite in fact, they can be quite lucrative.  As I said earlier, there's no noble cause here.



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Posted 20 November 2013 - 01:32 PM

First of all, I want to know what the heck is going on here! Why are we being so civil? Have we actually grown up and can allow different opinions without getting personal?

 

This is great!  

 

3.  I'm not an expert on the fire response times and what kind of equipment the FFD would need to respond to a fire at a three-story complex of that size.  There are other posters here that may be able to answer these questions.   Perhaps they can already handle it, but I would definitely ask.

 

I believe the next new fire house to be built will be in the Empire Ranch area. I don't know where they are in the process. Maybe once they get more money in the city coffers (developer fees?) they will build it.

 

I'll see what I can find out.  

 

 

The shopping cart issue is kind of irritating,, Stores that have carts should be required to use the ones with wheels that lock up if they leave the parking lot. When i couldn't get the store to come pick up one that was left in my yard, I cut it up and made a garden cart out of it for my wife. Low income housing shouldn't be concentrated in large complexes, It should be spread out in smaller complexes across the city, Including the future development south of 50. 

 

I remember when a Supermarket in the Bay Area installed those wheel locking devices and the community was up in arms, stating that the people who were removing (stealing) them, were poor and needed them.

 

As for the low income housing, there's always the dispute over whether to put it in one section of town or sprinkle it in with market priced housing.

 

Those opposed to the 'sprinkle' theory fear the kind of next door neighbors they'll get, and those against the 'put it over there' argument fear turning one area into a slum.

 

No good answer, really, but I think the sprinkle system works best.  

 

I've wondered about this, too.  Is low income housing required to be built in Granite Bay?  In EDH?  I'm not taking a position for or against (haven't thought it through), but it's an odd concept that people have a "right" to live in places they can't afford. 

 

I think the argument for affordable housing came about under the theory that people who provide services to a community should be able to live there, too, or people who live in a community should not be forced out by increasing rents.

 

It is a unique thing, because we certainly don't require affordable food, clothing or cars, but then again, we're talking about roofs over heads.

 

Time and again we see low-income housing developments become eye-sores or hotbeds for crime, so I fully understand the opposition to them.    

 

 

And just to better define Section 8 from the building owners perspective, they are reimbursed for the amount of the reduced rent.  In addition, they are given federal tax credits for building the property.  So, there's really no downside for the builder-quite the opposite in fact, they can be quite lucrative.  As I said earlier, there's no noble cause here.

 

There are landlords who make their livings off of Section 8. They know that the government pays them top dollar and guarantees they'll get paid, and since don't care about their tenants' comfort, they don't generally spend too much on maintenance and upgrades.

 

There are exceptions, but I've known landlords like that. 

 

One asked, if I paint it, will the tenant pay me more rent?


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Posted 20 November 2013 - 01:48 PM

I'm all for the sprinkle method Steve refers to. 


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Posted 20 November 2013 - 03:50 PM

ONE LAST REMINDER FOR THE SILBERHORN PROJECT, 5PM DEADLINE TODAY:
If you haven't already, please send your formal objections to the environmental document to Steve Banks by close of business today.



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Posted 02 December 2013 - 08:39 PM

UPDATE:  The public meeting for the Silberhorn condos has been postponed yet again.  There is no new date at this time, but I'll update this thread when I learn more.



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Posted 02 December 2013 - 08:50 PM

I drove by the proposed development this weekend. I really don't see what the big protest is all about. I think the development will fit in quite nicely there.

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 08:14 AM

I'm not sure if this is related to this thread or completely different, but there was a Public Notice in the Telegraph relating to Empire Ranch Development Agreement Amendment No. 9, Empire Ranch Specific Plan Area.  It will be before the Planning Commission at its February 5, 2014, meeting to consider a request from Elliott Homes for Amendment No. 9.  I posted this in case anyone who lives in the area is curious.  You can call 355-7385 or email sbanks@folsom.ca.us.



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Posted 23 January 2014 - 11:16 AM

It's about time ER got their fair share of apartments and condos!  They're too heavily concentrated in other areas of folsom and we deal with traffic congestion.  I'm sure ER is just worried about (gasp!) lower income families.  It's time for ER to share their space and I am in full support for this project, as are most people in our larger neighborhoods of Parkway, Natoma Station and Prairie Oaks.



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Posted 23 January 2014 - 06:02 PM

It seems to me that at the end of the day the main argument in favor of this development is along the lines of "It's about time ER got their fair share of apartments and condos".  Frankly I'm a little surprised.  I didn't realize there was such a sense of us vs. them in a city as small as Folsom.  I, for one, am in favor of holding the city and the developers accountable for responsible development, regardless of what neighborhood is involved.  Let's not kid ourselves, this development has nothing to do with fairness and everything to do with developer profits.

 

I'm pretty sure that 1500 views of this thread and 100+ facebook followers in 5 days is not due to most people being in support of this project.



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Posted 23 January 2014 - 09:14 PM

It's about time ER got their fair share of apartments and condos!  They're too heavily concentrated in other areas of folsom and we deal with traffic congestion.  I'm sure ER is just worried about (gasp!) lower income families.  It's time for ER to share their space and I am in full support for this project, as are most people in our larger neighborhoods of Parkway, Natoma Station and Prairie Oaks.

I didn't realize I live in a ritzy part of town. I'm just a middle aged, middle income earner trying to enjoy life without incurring debt. :) I guess most of us may never be satisfied with what we have and always want more. I know I am working on this in my life.



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Posted 25 January 2014 - 09:00 AM

It's about time ER got their fair share of apartments and condos!  They're too heavily concentrated in other areas of folsom and we deal with traffic congestion.  I'm sure ER is just worried about (gasp!) lower income families.  It's time for ER to share their space and I am in full support for this project, as are most people in our larger neighborhoods of Parkway, Natoma Station and Prairie Oaks.

I was thinking same thing about Beverly Hills, Del Mar,
Downtown SF, and all the other places I can't afford....that the government should make it so I can live anywhere I want at someone else's expense.

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 03:22 PM

This is back on the agenda:  Mat 21st 6:30PM.  We need everyone to attend.

 

As a refresher, here's what we know:  This was resolved once before in 2003 with a recommendation to "remove from further consideration" due to not fitting with the design and character of the neighborhood and the Parkway specific plan.  So, why would it now be a good fit?  Why is this even allowed to be considered again?

 

The previous meeting was postponed so a traffic study could be performed.  The traffic study, which was bought and paid for by the developer is a sham.  It studied one day, a Wednesday from 9:30AM to 11:30AM.  What a joke--what do you suppose this study will show?  Anyone who knows anything about traffic studies knows that peak times are 7AM to 9AM and 4PM to 6PM.  Clearly these times were avoided for a reason, and I find it very disingenuous. 

 

Again, please mark May 21st at 6:30Pm on your calendar and attend.  We need as many people to attend as we can get.

 

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 09:51 PM

It seems to me that at the end of the day the main argument in favor of this development is along the lines of "It's about time ER got their fair share of apartments and condos".  Frankly I'm a little surprised.  I didn't realize there was such a sense of us vs. them in a city as small as Folsom.  I, for one, am in favor of holding the city and the developers accountable for responsible development, regardless of what neighborhood is involved.  Let's not kid ourselves, this development has nothing to do with fairness and everything to do with developer profits.

 

I'm pretty sure that 1500 views of this thread and 100+ facebook followers in 5 days is not due to most people being in support of this project.

Actually they are following the facebook page merely for the amusement of all the snarkiness -- but hey... when apples go up they gotta come down. :)






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