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Posted 10 November 2014 - 02:59 PM

I am sorry none of the challengers made the cut. Several people here have pointed out some potential reasons. I'd like to add a few more with suggestions for future campaigns.

 

The best qualified applicant for any job isn't necessarily the one that gets the job. It boils down to marketing - how one markets oneself on paper and in person. In the case of running for office it also boils down to campaign and marketing strategy -- how to get the word out. As has already been noted this is no easy thing to do with limited funds.

 

I wonder how many people who were adamant about change made donations to their candidate(s) of choice. It costs money to make signs. Although merely seeing a sign with a name shouldn't be reason enough to vote for someone, there are people who are influenced by these things; minimally, if someone sees quite a bit of support for a challenger that person might be motivated to go research that candidate.

 

I feel candidates would benefit from campaign teams, not one or two people who guide them. Campaign teams can provide valuable input and feedback on strategy, marketing approaches, and content for written materials and debates. Amongst the four challengers, there were some really good ideas, but a few of the challengers really struggled to make clear points in the two forums I saw and two had trouble putting sentences together.  It is critical to have a strategy going in to these debates, with clear prioritized talking points, with knowledge of how to gauge time, with practice in order to make coherent statements, and with the foresight to take time to think before answering questions. (One challenger jumped up to be first to answer a few questions, but jumped up too soon to deliver a thought out response.) Some written content I read contained quite a few grammatical errors, something brought to my attention by several friends before I even had a chance to review the content myself. Should this matter? Maybe not, but people can only judge what they see and hear, and if what they see and hear is fumbling about and error-ridden, it will help formulate an opinion of that candidate. Everything a candidate does, says, and writes is marketing that candidate in some way, but is it effective marketing?

 

If campaign funds can't cover the cost of mass mailings, candidates could produce handouts/fliers with a summary of their platforms, concerns, and local issues. These should be reviewed and proofed by campaign teams for feedback, with an eye for relevance, succinctness, clarity, accuracy, prioritization, and ease of reading. These could be emailed to supporters to email to their friends. Campaign teams could organize to disseminate this information in various neighborhoods to get the information out there and urge the importance of getting out the vote. Facebook pages could be set up such that this most critical information is always front and center, instead of having to read every post to find issues on the platform.

 

These are just a few ideas that have been floating around in my head the last several weeks: marketing and strategy. It isn't enough to have a good heart to run for office and serve the community. Heart + marketing + strategy lifts the campaign to a new level, a level that is crucial for success.


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Posted 10 November 2014 - 03:24 PM

Well, I am sending messages to the businesses that I frequent on Sutter St and in the Palladio (both of which are the places where I do spend most of my money) whether it's alright with them that I still spend money at their establishments in spite of the request from the head of the Chamber's Ambassador program. Then again, maybe I should shut up and just get in line with what the guy says, right? Don't spend money in Folsom and move out, maybe even sell below market. Sounds kind of Nazi-ish, though.


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Posted 10 November 2014 - 04:02 PM

It looks like that was posted on Chad's personal FB page where he is free to express his own opinions. 



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Posted 10 November 2014 - 04:44 PM

It looks like that was posted on Chad's personal FB page where he is free to express his own opinions. 


Very true, but he's still the Chair of the Ambassadors. The Chair was telling people to not patronize Folsom businesses.

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Posted 10 November 2014 - 05:15 PM

Have you not heard of sarcasm?  Inappropriate maybe but placed on a private page by a volunteer.  The chamber is a great organization that does a huge amount of good for this city.  I love Folsom and would never have moved here if it were not for the Chamber.  I have never liked that BizPac endorses candidates and do not pay dues to them but every successful city needs a vibrant chamber and Folsom certainly has that.  

 

Very true, but he's still the Chair of the Ambassadors. The Chair was telling people to not patronize Folsom businesses.



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Posted 10 November 2014 - 05:27 PM

The chamber is a great organization that does a huge amount of good for this city.  I love Folsom and would never have moved here if it were not for the Chamber.  I have never liked that BizPac endorses candidates and do not pay dues to them but every successful city needs a vibrant chamber and Folsom certainly has that.  

 

Can agree w/ this part overall, and I that the Chamber re-assesses how they campaign, that they stand up for Folsom business (not out of town developers) and urge Folsom's residents to spend their time and money here and to get involved... not to spend elsewhere and move if they don't support their candidates.

 

Do you agree, as a Folsom Chamber member (which i have been as well), that the Chamber, its committees and its volunteers should all strive to keep residents' business local (in Folsom)? What that guy posted was just being a dick. 


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Posted 10 November 2014 - 07:04 PM

What about the Chamber member (Ambassador, too) who requests that, if we did not vote for the incumbents, that we should:

  • Not shop at Palladio
  • Do not visit or shop the Historic District 
  • Do not visit the Ice Rink
  • Do not drive over ANY of the major overcrossings in the city (although there is only one)
  • Do not shop at Costco or Sam's Club
  • Move out of Folsom

I wonder how all those voters that didn't vote in unison with the Chamber, BizPac and this particular tool, feel about that. How about those businesses that we Folsom citizens support all around Folsom, including those in the Historic District, Palladio and elsewhere, would feel about one of the Chamber's ambassadors telling all those that didn't vote for The Machine to take their business elsewhere? I mean, that's fine for BizPac to take their business outside of Folsom, but for those of us that live here and believe in shopping local, maybe that's not the right message to deliver. 

 

Do it his way or hit the highway is the message. Is that the Chamber and Council's message, too?

Wow, this is a pretty childish statement.  So the almighty "Incumbents" are responsible for everything in Folsom now?  So Costco didn't want to come here, or Sam's Club?  Did Steve, Kerri and Andi actually lay the bricks for the bridges too?  Oh and Good Lord, they must be hundreds of years old since they apparently created the Historic District too!  

 

What an idiot.  This is who "represents" the Chamber?  Seems like it's time for a new face there too!

 

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Posted 10 November 2014 - 07:12 PM

One word of adivce, when posting on social media, assume everyone will see it.  Your pages and posts aren't as "private" as you thought.  Its been apparent just in our little ole city council election with the posts by Mayor Howell and now this bozo.

 

With that said, this "Ambassador" for the Chamber should resign immediately.  He should be embarrassed by his post.  If I was a Chamber member (and I'm not), I'd be furious that a leader of the organization was urging people who didn't agree with him to not spend their $$$ at businesses belonging to the Chamber. 

 

This organization is an embarrassent.  When their $1 lease from the city is up for renewal this year, the city council meeting needs to be packed with those opposed.  Who the hell is scratching who's back in this city.  When is that deal up again???  We need to know!!!  This is the meeting to let your voice be heard. 



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Posted 10 November 2014 - 07:54 PM

Because of politics, I'm hardly a Chamber/BizPAC defender, however I certainly want to cut this ambassador guy slack for his FB comments, which were obviously made during an argument, and were not meant literally, but were used as a (poor) rhetorical device.  I recommend just dropping this topic.  Yes, the Chamber is in bed with incumbents, who are funded by developers, and that stinks.  But as for the actual FB post, I don't care about it.

 

By the way, my wife and I were in Nevada City / Grass Valley yesterday, and were impressed by how much better those old towns are than ours in Folsom (and we like Folsom's old town, so that's saying something). No, they don't have the railway and the ice rink, but it's way more fun to stroll those streets.  Then out of the blue, my wife wondered if the BizPAC/Chamber approach had anything to do with preventing Folsom from attaining the level of Nevada City, in terms of the types of local establishments and overall vibe.  I was taken aback, and thought of this web forum.



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Posted 10 November 2014 - 07:55 PM

Because of politics, I'm hardly a Chamber/BizPAC defender, however I certainly want to cut this ambassador guy slack for his FB comments, which were obviously made during an argument, and were not meant literally, but were used as a (poor) rhetorical device.  I recommend just dropping this topic.  Yes, the Chamber is in bed with incumbents, who are funded by developers, and that stinks.  But as for the actual FB post, I don't care about it.

 

By the way, my wife and I were in Nevada City / Grass Valley yesterday, and were impressed by how much better those old towns are than ours in Folsom (and we like Folsom's old town, so that's saying something), although they don't have the railway and the ice rink.  But it's way more fun to stroll those streets.  Then out of the blue, my wife wondered if the BizPAC/Chamber approach had anything to do with preventing Folsom from attaining the level of Nevada City, in terms of the types of local establishments and overall vibe.  I was taken aback, and thought of this web forum.

 

 

Nevada City's old town is SO awesome. I love it.



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Posted 10 November 2014 - 08:41 PM

By the way, my wife and I were in Nevada City / Grass Valley yesterday, and were impressed by how much better those old towns are than ours in Folsom (and we like Folsom's old town, so that's saying something). No, they don't have the railway and the ice rink, but it's way more fun to stroll those streets.  Then out of the blue, my wife wondered if the BizPAC/Chamber approach had anything to do with preventing Folsom from attaining the level of Nevada City, in terms of the types of local establishments and overall vibe.  I was taken aback, and thought of this web forum.

 

I am no expert on the matter, but try to listen, learn and give a little input when I can.

 

There are major differences, from what I can tell, between the Nevada City/Grass Valley areas and Folsom.

 

Those towns focus on tourism, using their history and the arts as draws.

 

In Folsom, you have lots of people in the Historic District who want to fight tourism. Remember the letter published in the Telegraph saying, 'Shame on the City Council for trying to bring in more tourists'?

 

There's a certain amount of often justified fear that more tourism will mean more problems, more drunkenness and more parking problems. 

 

You have some building owners and business owners who don't want more business. They open and close when they feel like it.

 

There are disparate groups all with their own agenda and visions for the district; the Chamber, Historic District Merchants Association, Folsom Historical Society, Sutter Street Artists, and the neighbors.

 

We have had leaders in City Council and on commissions who've focused on parks and rec and bike trails, all of which I enjoy, but often at the expense of arts and cultural amenities. This was a major factor in my volunteering for the Arts and Cultural Commission.

 

We have a great Amphitheater that has had very few concerts. It is terribly under-utilized. There should be several concerts per week there, but I don't there's been more than a dozen since it opened, with the exception of Folsom Live.  

 

The Chamber worked with the city to create the Folsom Tourism Bureau and they spend a lot of money advertising Folsom, but as has been said and noted above, many of the residents and some of the merchants aren't buying in.

 

This is changing and will continue to as more of the old businesses move on and new ones pop up, but the change will be gradual.

 

Also, note that we vote with our wallets. If we don't attend the events, if we don't patronize the merchants, they go away.

 

I don't know if Folsom will ever have the kind of vibe that those other communities have, because they are more open and welcoming, in my opinion, to visitors and outsiders.  

 

Okay, I've been trying to get to the gym for the past to hours. I gotta go!


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Posted 12 November 2014 - 01:41 PM

 

I don't know if Folsom will ever have the kind of vibe that those other communities have, because they are more open and welcoming, in my opinion, to visitors and outsiders.  

 

Okay, I've been trying to get to the gym for the past to hours. I gotta go!

 

Nevada City, Grass Valley, Auburn, Roseville, etc.   all abide by the Zoning laws and Street Standards.      They do NOT put extremely dense OUTSIDE commercial events in places lacking ---   totally lacking  -- in fire and emergency access.   

They never did shut down a 3 county bridge and arterial like Folsom Blvd. for some commercial race on public land.   (tourism bureau concoction)

 

Folsom was ejected from the normal N. California cities insurance pool -- because we have a council which has little respect for human safety, property rights, Zoning laws, infrastructure improvements, etc.    Sure, it's technical, but the long-term incumbents know the huge sums of money they saved developers by giving them public property for commercial gain, and letting them skip the infrastructure improvements.   

 

What sense is there in bringing many thousands into 18 foot wide "city streets"?     Some  council 4!    The piper always demands his due -- their day will come.     It may even smell of raw prisons' sewage, since the Sutter st. re-do omitted putting in a raw sewage mainline connection.    



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Posted 12 November 2014 - 03:41 PM

Tgianco:  What is a Howell jock?  And can you be one if you did not endorse nor contribute to her campaign?  The sniping attack against a good Folsom business and a personal attack at the same time was a shocker coming from you.  It would not have been from the usually snipish posters like smails, but I considered you a friendly acquaintance and fellow local business person.  I hope that you can reconsider.  I think you know how to reach me if you want to talk about it.


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Posted 12 November 2014 - 03:46 PM

Ducky:  I did not attend the BizPAC fundraiser this year.  I was at a meeting trying to get endorsements for Measure G. 


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Posted 12 November 2014 - 04:41 PM

Ducky:  I did not attend the BizPAC fundraiser this year.  I was at a meeting trying to get endorsements for Measure G. 

 

A thousand apologies.  The photo thanking you for attending the Endless Summer Bash was indeed in 2013.






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