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#31 Chris

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Posted 30 June 2018 - 07:27 PM

Two different worlds.

The Democrats will graduate to a world where everyone has free health care and can go to college.

Where rich people do humanitarian services and justice prevails.

Those left behind will continue to live in a dog-eat-dog world.

Free.....?   What exactly does "Free" mean....?   It means someone else pays for the benefit you get at no cost to you...!  You democrats are so good at "free", meaning I pay for the stuff you give to other people for "free" using my tax dollars from my hard work in exchange for them voting for your democrat party.....!    Nothing is free Tio Vinny....!   And not everyone has the brains and the persistence to go to college.   Weed them out, the smart, the tenacious, the go getters and the brilliant ones.  The rest drive your trucks, build your houses, fix your cars, sell you carpets, deliver your mail, clean your house, mow your lawn, sell you tires, install and fix your dishwasher, and cook and serve your lunch.  And the best humanitarian services are provided from religious groups, Christians mostly, not from government.....!   


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#32 The Average Joe

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Posted 30 June 2018 - 09:32 PM

Vin, "the government" does not supply "free" basic services, heathcare, or education. The TAXPAYER povides that at the end of a government gun. If you want to provide free education for someone, feel free. I'm too busy working to PAY for my own kids to go to college.


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#33 The Average Joe

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Posted 30 June 2018 - 09:39 PM

Chris, A lot of house builders, mechanics, etc are "go getters," smart, and tenacious. You have to be to have a small business. Skilled tradespeople make between 50-120 an hour. It's not like they don't have brains or persistence, they have valuable SKILLS that most college grads have no clue about.  Just saying...you sound pretty elitist.


"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive" -- C.S. Lewis

 

If the only way to combat "global warming" was to lower taxes, we would never hear of the issue again. - Anonymous

 

"Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one" — Thomas Paine, 𝘊𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘰𝘯 𝘚𝘦𝘯𝘴𝘦 (1776)

 


#34 UncleVinnys

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Posted 01 July 2018 - 06:06 AM

Alexandria Ocasia-Cortez meets the alt-Right war machine. 
(Very symbolic!)

 

Check out the words at 0:32.

    "I didn't sign up for this . . ."

 

 


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#35 Chris

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Posted 01 July 2018 - 07:57 AM

Chris, A lot of house builders, mechanics, etc are "go getters," smart, and tenacious. You have to be to have a small business. Skilled tradespeople make between 50-120 an hour. It's not like they don't have brains or persistence, they have valuable SKILLS that most college grads have no clue about.  Just saying...you sound pretty elitist.

Agreed, did not mean it like that.  Some of the dumbest people I ever trained had Phd but could not change a tire on a car of fix a vacuum pump if their life depended on it......    


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Posted 01 July 2018 - 07:03 PM

Oh, this is so precious.....!   Socialism is for thee, not for me....!   

 

Ex co-worker no fan of Democrat darling Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

 

https://pagesix.com/...-ocasio-cortez/

 

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is being hailed as the new face of the Democratic party after vanquishing Queens party boss Joe Crowley in Tuesday’s primary, but one former co-worker isn’t jumping on her bandwagon.

Most of the staff at Flats Fix, the East 16th Street taco and tequila bar, say nice things about Sandy, as they knew her for the four years she worked there, until she quit six months ago to run for Congress.

But one waitress has a bad memory of working with Ocasio-Cortez, 28, as Ocasio-Cortez tended bar during the very busy Cinco de Mayo celebration in 2017.

At the end of the night, when it came time to split the $560 in tips she had gotten at the bar, Ocasio-Cortez gave the waitress only $50. After the waitress complained to her manager, her take was doubled to $100, a source said.

“It says so much about her character,” said my source. “From that point on, I wouldn’t talk to her. I couldn’t look at her.”

Ocasio-Cortez couldn’t be reached for comment.


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#37 UncleVinnys

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Posted 01 July 2018 - 09:29 PM

Acceptance speech:


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Posted 02 July 2018 - 06:07 AM

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Posted 02 July 2018 - 11:41 AM

I dunno . . . 13 million people voted for Bernie Sanders in the Democratic primary in 2016. I guess "democratic socialism" is much more acceptable than "socialism."  

 

 

5 Ways Democratic Socialism Isn’t What You Think

 

https://www.huffingt..._b_8876476.html

 

1. Democratic Socialism Is Not Marxism

 

2. It Is Not Communism

 

3. It Is Not A Replacement For Capitalism

 

4. It Is Not The Same As Regular Socialism

 

5. It Is Not Outside The Democratic Party


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Posted 02 July 2018 - 11:43 AM

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Posted 02 July 2018 - 01:02 PM

I dunno . . . 13 million people voted for Bernie Sanders in the Democratic primary in 2016. I guess "democratic socialism" is much more acceptable than "socialism."

 

 

5 Ways Democratic Socialism Isn’t What You Think

 

https://www.huffingt..._b_8876476.html

 

1. Democratic Socialism Is Not Marxism

 

2. It Is Not Communism

 

3. It Is Not A Replacement For Capitalism

 

4. It Is Not The Same As Regular Socialism

 

5. It Is Not Outside The Democratic Party

 

Put lipstick on a pig...it's still a pig!  :noway:



#42 The Average Joe

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Posted 02 July 2018 - 05:01 PM

Here is what Democratic Socialists believe:

 

We believe that the workers and consumers who are affected by economic institutions should own and control them. Social ownership could take many forms, such as worker-owned cooperatives or publicly owned enterprises managed by workers and consumer representatives.

 

Ahh, the workers co-op and "public businesses." Let's ignore all historical evidence on human behavior and put out unicorn hats on!

 

While the large concentrations of capital in industries such as energy and steel may necessitate some form of state ownership, many consumer-goods industries might be best run as cooperatives.

 

Ah, "state ownership" of industry. What a novel idea. Let's see, I'm sure that has never been tried before right? Right?

 

Most of all, socialists look to unions to make private business more accountable. ..

We don’t agree with the capitalist assumption that starvation or greed are the only reasons people work. People enjoy their work if it is meaningful and enhances their lives. They work out of a sense of responsibility to their community and society. Although a long-term goal of socialism is to eliminate all but the most enjoyable kinds of labor...

we believe that a combination of social, economic, and moral incentives will motivate people to work. 

 

Hmm, sounds pretty "socialisty" and "utopiany" to me. 

 

no country has fully instituted democratic socialism, the socialist parties and labor movements of other countries have won many victories for their people.

 

Name them.

 

Social democratic reform must now happen at the international level. Multinational corporations must be brought under democratic controls, and workers’ organizing efforts must reach across borders.

 

Ahh, so the world government workers utopia. I seem to recall the USSR using those same ideas of a worker's utopia. How did that work out for them?

 

 

Although capitalism will be with us for a long time, reforms we win now—raising the minimum wage, securing a national health plan, and demanding passage of right-to-strike legislation—can bring us closer to socialism... We are visible in the reproductive freedom movement, the fight for student aid, gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender organizations, anti-racist groups, and the labor movement.

It is precisely our socialist vision that informs and inspires our day-to-day activism for social justice.

 

And there you have it!  Sounds great to me! :P


"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive" -- C.S. Lewis

 

If the only way to combat "global warming" was to lower taxes, we would never hear of the issue again. - Anonymous

 

"Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one" — Thomas Paine, 𝘊𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘰𝘯 𝘚𝘦𝘯𝘴𝘦 (1776)

 


#43 Who_Do_You_Trust

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Posted 02 July 2018 - 05:31 PM

The primary reason Millennials are more willing to accept some form of democratic socialism is tied to the problems in our government.  They are tired of having no voice in government, nor of having their representatives work in the best interests of constituents.

 

Conservatives will respond by telling them to go vote.  Why should they vote?  It doesn't matter.  We vote our representatives into Congress, and they completely ignore the voters because they are too busy responding to the needs and wishes of lobbyists.  Constituents are at the very bottom of our Congressman's priority list. 

 

Our current "free enterprise" system is horribly distorted.  And because of all the legislation that corporate lobbyists have paid congress to enact.  On top of that, we have Citizens United, and court rulings that make corporations the same as citizens, and rollbacks of financial regulations, and the nutjob in the White House starting trade wars that will increase the price of everything.  None of this is in the best interest of constituents.

 

And you wonder why an entire generation is willing to consider "social democracy"?  



#44 Chris

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Posted 02 July 2018 - 05:35 PM

I dunno . . . 13 million people voted for Bernie Sanders in the Democratic primary in 2016. I guess "democratic socialism" is much more acceptable than "socialism."

 

 

5 Ways Democratic Socialism Isn’t What You Think

 

https://www.huffingt..._b_8876476.html

 

1. Democratic Socialism Is Not Marxism

 

2. It Is Not Communism

 

3. It Is Not A Replacement For Capitalism

 

4. It Is Not The Same As Regular Socialism

 

5. It Is Not Outside The Democratic Party

Hey Tio Vinny, news for you, I am a registered democrat here in CA and I voted for Bernie, against Hillary of course.  Bernie is just an economic idiot, Hillary is just plain evil.  So there you go...!   Don't read to much into your "Socialism"...!   It's a ___ dream.   Chris


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Posted 02 July 2018 - 05:39 PM

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