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#16 Bill Z

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 11:29 AM

QUOTE(Darthvader @ Apr 2 2008, 11:54 AM) View Post
Spare me will ya. How about -100? The story is on the local Sacramento news, should I not pay attention since I don't have the "right to know" or "need to know?" People post here for help and everybody just takes it at face value. This isn't Top Secret Military stuff here guys.

You pat each other on the back after throwing out those statements when it doesn't make sense.

Where exactly is the line drawn? You seem perfectly fine discussing private aspects of local business/owners and govt even though you may not have the need or right to know. And G_d knows I've seen WAY too much info on certain people's personal life that they should keep to themselves but they spew it out anyways. I think the need to know or right to know has no application here.

I didn't say you don't have the right to watch public TV, but you are the one who said
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it's a little odd how the Mom said those things about being drugged etc when she should have had no idea what was happening.

1) How can you claim that the mom should have no idea what might be happening to her daughter? Mom isn't necessarily some naive lady with no clue about the real world.
2) Why is it odd that the mother's instinctive hunches turned out to be correct?Be what it may, there is a saying about a women's intuition.
If the answer to the above questions becomes public knowledge, so be it.
But if it doesn't become public knowledge, then the "need to know" and the "right to know" are very much applicable.
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Posted 02 April 2008 - 11:34 AM

QUOTE(Bill Z @ Apr 2 2008, 12:29 PM) View Post
I didn't say you don't have the right to watch public TV, but you are the one who said
1) How can you claim that the mom should have no idea what might be happening to her daughter? Mom isn't necessarily some naive lady with no clue about the real world.
2) Why is it odd that the mother's instinctive hunches turned out to be correct?Be what it may, there is a saying about a women's intuition.
If the answer to the above questions becomes public knowledge, so be it.
But if it doesn't become public knowledge, then the "need to know" and the "right to know" are very much applicable.


Stellar reply. I'm glad the Mom's instinctive hunch wasn't that the girl was abducted by Aliens as I'd hate to have seen THAT come true.
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Posted 02 April 2008 - 11:59 AM

QUOTE(ChipShot @ Apr 2 2008, 07:02 AM) View Post
I agree, Darth. Something odd going on here. Oh, and nice to see the teen center doing good things with quality teens. Close it down...


along similar lines, but when's Craigslist gonna institute a "no pimping" policy?
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Posted 02 April 2008 - 12:53 PM

Last I heard, craigslist has a policy of no pimping and prostitution.
I've also heard the police regulary scan craigslist and find ways to find pimps and prostitutes through ads on craigslist.

kinda like: stupid is as stupid does.

On to privacy though: Darth and Chip--you state that you have winessed people on this site giving out too much personal info.

I don't see how that justifies asking about a families perosnal info--who is not on the site.
Especially when pertaining to a crime under investigation, a minor, and certainly not a rape case.

Seems like your brewing for sic info for personal glorification of someone elses tragedy.

Let the investigation move on. At some point---what you do need to know--will be properly published. And actually, by any laws I've heard of--what you do need to know has already been published and is being updated when needed. Go look it up in the police log.

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 02:01 PM

I'd just like to know when the gigantic group of volunteers who put up the "missing" posters will do the right thing, regroup and take them all down. They are EVERYWHERE, which was great, but now that she's been recovered does someone else have to go take them down?
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Posted 02 April 2008 - 02:25 PM

The way I understand this happened is that some kids from her school set her up to be taken from the Safeway and brought to the Bay Area to be drugged and forced to have sex.

It is my understanding that authorities were suspicious of the kid who was supposed to bring her home from the get-to, so it stands to reason that he/she might have indicated what had happened to the girl in the days leading up to her discovery, leading her Mom to make her statement about her daughter potentially being exposed to drugs and prostitution against her will.

From everything I've learned from being around law enforcement, the public is not given the whole story for a reason. There is a trial, privacy issues, etc at stake here. To some extent is is our business because we all forwarded the emails about her being missing and helped post missing posters, but on the other hand, it's not our business at all! I think the media jumps too much on these stories for the sensationalism- mind you they sure are sharing the outcome but had to be begged to do the story about her missing in the first place!!!!! Unbelievable.

Give the family the benefit of the doubt. This poor family and girl have been through hell and I wouldn't wish this on anyone.

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 02:30 PM

QUOTE(jafount @ Apr 2 2008, 03:01 PM) View Post
I'd just like to know when the gigantic group of volunteers who put up the "missing" posters will do the right thing, regroup and take them all down. They are EVERYWHERE, which was great, but now that she's been recovered does someone else have to go take them down?

That is a good point. The same thing happens at election time, vote for signs go up, but then they hang around for everyone else to dispose of them. But as throwing away a little flyer isn't hard, it's something that everyone could do. If you see an outdated flyer, when walking by it, just grab it and throw it away in the nearest trash can. When everyone helps to chip in, society is improved. It's like when I go backpacking and I pack out someone else's trash. Yes, I wish people wouldn't leave their trash in the wilderness, but by packing it out, I'm helping to keep our forests clean instead of just moaning about it.
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Posted 02 April 2008 - 02:48 PM

QUOTE(Bill Z @ Apr 2 2008, 03:30 PM) View Post
That is a good point. The same thing happens at election time, vote for signs go up, but then they hang around for everyone else to dispose of them. But as throwing away a little flyer isn't hard, it's something that everyone could do. If you see an outdated flyer, when walking by it, just grab it and throw it away in the nearest trash can. When everyone helps to chip in, society is improved. It's like when I go backpacking and I pack out someone else's trash. Yes, I wish people wouldn't leave their trash in the wilderness, but by packing it out, I'm helping to keep our forests clean instead of just moaning about it.


Yeah the signs I'm talking about are just that, signs. They are 24" by 36" at major intersections, on light poles, etc. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for doing anything and everything to get back a missing child. I'm just saying that the volunteers who were kind enough to put up the signs, should be kind enough to take them down. The family certainly can't be responsible for taking them down, they have enough to deal with.
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Posted 02 April 2008 - 03:03 PM

QUOTE(ChipShot @ Apr 2 2008, 07:02 AM) View Post
I agree, Darth. Something odd going on here. Oh, and nice to see the teen center doing good things with quality teens. Close it down...

With that logic--since all the kids go the local highschool--then we should close the high school?

Then, with that logic--since all the kids in that highschool live in a certain region--we should police state it and not allow any free movements, free speech or freedom of expression?

after all, they aren't really US citizens with FULL rights until they are adults, right? wacko.gif

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 03:10 PM

QUOTE(supermom @ Apr 2 2008, 04:03 PM) View Post
With that logic--since all the kids go the local highschool--then we should close the high school?

Then, with that logic--since all the kids in that highschool live in a certain region--we should police state it and not allow any free movements, free speech or freedom of expression?

after all, they aren't really US citizens with FULL rights until they are adults, right? wacko.gif


Full rights? Yep that's what will save their arse in this case because they probably will be too young to go on trial as adults and will end up with some BS 6 month sentence and probation.
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Posted 02 April 2008 - 03:23 PM

new info:

No names were in the article about this particular crime--but I'm thinking the two are linked.

whatcha think?


Local accused child trafficker pleads not guilty.

http://cbs13.com/loc...t.2.690752.html

* note---FBI agents were escorting him into court.


Was this the info you were looking for Darth?




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Posted 02 April 2008 - 04:06 PM

QUOTE(supermom @ Apr 2 2008, 03:23 PM) View Post
new info:

No names were in the article about this particular crime--but I'm thinking the two are linked.

whatcha think?
Local accused child trafficker pleads not guilty.

http://cbs13.com/loc...t.2.690752.html

* note---FBI agents were escorting him into court.
Was this the info you were looking for Darth?


Sure looks like the guy and matches the crimes, nice find. But he was released on similar charges back in Jan? I guess "Wallstreet" has found a crime that apparently doesn't buy too much jail time.
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