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#1 Robert Giacometti

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Posted 01 January 2008 - 09:08 PM

Did anyone see the article in the Bee (last week) regarding Sacramento trucking its garbage to Nevada to save on dumping fees at the county landfill?

Supposedly the City of Sac is trying to achieve this designation of greenest city, yet they send 20 semi's of diesel belching smog across the Sierra's every night full of their garbage. Since the wind blows form the west and Sacramento is sending its garbage east, THEY aren't really polluting their own air, just their neighbors.

The county landfill has to charge all other cities a fee to dump our trash there to cover their costs. Since Sacramento, is trying to save a few bucks by trucking their trash to Nevada, they are avoiding contributing to the fixed cots of the operations at the landfill. Therefore the rest of us, who are dumping there are paying a higher fixed cost, because there is less volumne that the fixed costs can be amoritized against.

Remember last year when we were being asked to raise our taxes to contribute to building their Downtown Arena?

I get a kick out of the philosophical leanings of those in Sacramento. The hypocrisy of those who share this philosophy is almost comical. They are generally such supporters of environmental goals, until they have to reach into their own pockets and pay with their own money, then they become more conservative than Newt Gringrich!

Unfortunately, the environment is NOT the only issue they think like this on!


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Posted 02 January 2008 - 10:04 AM

Well, it doesn't surprise me, at all.

The state has gotten tax crazy. Oh, wait, the state has gotten tax crazy but only if they can pawn the taxes to a smaller percentage of voters and make it look the least like discrimmination. Just check out the taxes on cigerattes and liquor.

Now if the state really wanted to be a "green" state--they would start taxing heavily on any food products sold that are not in recyclable containers. Shoot the prices way up for paper plates and cups and such. ( Doh, I think that fast food would become very expensive), but rather than worrying if someone wants to kill themselves with transgender fats--how about making everyone worry about the future landfills and oceans that our kids will inherit? )

Imagine tissue wrapping paper being taxed at 100 % its cost. Ya think we'd see less of it being used? What about those yummy pizzas and burgers in the frozen section at grocery stores that have styrofoam or " specially plated covering for microwave cooking on cardboard"?

Makes you wonder how New York can pass laws against restaurants selling foods with a certain kind of fat in it while the whole city dumps their trash into the ocean. Wonder what other strange things we'll see--soon.

#3 Dave Burrell

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Posted 02 January 2008 - 10:05 AM

hehehe better there then here

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Posted 02 January 2008 - 10:23 AM

Isn't all of Nevada a landfill? smile.gif
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Posted 02 January 2008 - 10:45 AM

QUOTE(brown @ Jan 2 2008, 10:23 AM) View Post
Isn't all of Nevada a landfill? smile.gif



It should be! tongue.gif

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Posted 02 January 2008 - 11:20 AM

QUOTE(brown @ Jan 2 2008, 10:23 AM) View Post
Isn't all of Nevada a landfill? smile.gif


thats what I was thinking...

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Posted 02 January 2008 - 12:02 PM

QUOTE(davburr @ Jan 2 2008, 11:20 AM) View Post
thats what I was thinking...


Reno is an exposed landfill!

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Posted 02 January 2008 - 12:27 PM

QUOTE(supermom @ Jan 2 2008, 10:04 AM) View Post
Well, it doesn't surprise me, at all.

The state has gotten tax crazy. Oh, wait, the state has gotten tax crazy but only if they can pawn the taxes to a smaller percentage of voters and make it look the least like discrimmination. Just check out the taxes on cigerattes and liquor.

Now if the state really wanted to be a "green" state--they would start taxing heavily on any food products sold that are not in recyclable containers. Shoot the prices way up for paper plates and cups and such. ( Doh, I think that fast food would become very expensive), but rather than worrying if someone wants to kill themselves with transgender fats--how about making everyone worry about the future landfills and oceans that our kids will inherit? )

Imagine tissue wrapping paper being taxed at 100 % its cost. Ya think we'd see less of it being used? What about those yummy pizzas and burgers in the frozen section at grocery stores that have styrofoam or " specially plated covering for microwave cooking on cardboard"?

Makes you wonder how New York can pass laws against restaurants selling foods with a certain kind of fat in it while the whole city dumps their trash into the ocean. Wonder what other strange things we'll see--soon.

Lobbyists win over common sense.

#9 Dave Burrell

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Posted 02 January 2008 - 01:03 PM

QUOTE(cw68 @ Jan 2 2008, 12:27 PM) View Post
Lobbyists win over common sense.


every single time - money rules the world

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Posted 02 January 2008 - 03:53 PM

QUOTE(Darthvader @ Jan 2 2008, 12:02 PM) View Post
Reno is an exposed landfill!



And Vegas is a heckuva lot worse!

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Posted 21 January 2008 - 01:27 AM

The City of Sacramento has been lucky that this issue has gone relatively unnoticed. Because fuel prices have gone up so much and because the public relations issue may be heating up, it could be more attractive to the City to now to dump at the local County landfill. I think this is a good example of the City and County of Sacramento not playing nice with each other. It is in both of their best interests to work together. The County would benefit from the additional tonnage to cover costs and could reduce the unit costs to all users. The City could avoid the public perception that they are exporting their problem to Nevada and reduce emissions of air pollutants without incurring additional costs. The City also sends trash to other landfills when they have bad weather in the Sierras, which is a whole other headache.

Sometimes trying to apply logic or reason to what the government does just results in a lot of undue frustration. Sometimes I think it is better just to forget the whole thing and let them just dig their own hole.

QUOTE(Robert Giacometti @ Jan 1 2008, 09:08 PM) View Post
Did anyone see the article in the Bee (last week) regarding Sacramento trucking its garbage to Nevada to save on dumping fees at the county landfill?

Supposedly the City of Sac is trying to achieve this designation of greenest city, yet they send 20 semi's of diesel belching smog across the Sierra's every night full of their garbage. Since the wind blows form the west and Sacramento is sending its garbage east, THEY aren't really polluting their own air, just their neighbors.

The county landfill has to charge all other cities a fee to dump our trash there to cover their costs. Since Sacramento, is trying to save a few bucks by trucking their trash to Nevada, they are avoiding contributing to the fixed cots of the operations at the landfill. Therefore the rest of us, who are dumping there are paying a higher fixed cost, because there is less volumne that the fixed costs can be amoritized against.

Remember last year when we were being asked to raise our taxes to contribute to building their Downtown Arena?

I get a kick out of the philosophical leanings of those in Sacramento. The hypocrisy of those who share this philosophy is almost comical. They are generally such supporters of environmental goals, until they have to reach into their own pockets and pay with their own money, then they become more conservative than Newt Gringrich!

Unfortunately, the environment is NOT the only issue they think like this on!






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