Joe, the city of my birth, SF is so sad..... I saw this coming back in the mid to late 70's as a 15-16 year old riding BART everywhere.... Sam Trans to BART, then Fremont, Richmond, Hayward, Berkeley (comic book shops on Telegraph), and 16th and 24th and Mission (comic book shops again). The piss, drugs, poop on the street, Market and Mission were just crazy back then, and on BART, the smell of piss everywhere........ Not to mention getting a few knives pulled on me in attempted robberies just off Mission street, fought them off and they got nothing and ran, young and dumb but we won the fight, they took off and ran. Good old street fighting.... Now it is so bad I won't go there. I try and not to put any money into SF's economy. Pelosi is done within 12 months and goes into a memory loss home for five years and then dies. She can then argue with the devil as to her merits and contributions to America. Won't work, she is doomed for eternity. Chris