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[Darthvader]

me too - I always order mine medium rare - I can't stand over cooked burgers, it makes them taste like cardboard

That sports bar by the theaters, Mark's is it?? has a really awesome burger. I was shocked at how good it was.

[mylo]

So, the contenders:

Folsom Bistro
Bidwell St. Bistro
Mark's Sports Bar
Red Robin
Folsom Hotel (I think they still have a burger)
Scotts Seafood

I vote that we skip fast-food entirely.

Others worth nominating? I will update this list.

[Dave Burrell]

That sports bar by the theaters, Mark's is it?? has a really awesome burger. I was shocked at how good it was.

no kiddin? that's good to hear - we'll have to try that place out soon, thanks for the FYI - I had no idea they even served food there

[fried chicken]

cost? sounds interesting. confit of what? sugar? duck fat?

onion confit, they're just cooked for a long time in oil until they almost melt. like carmelizing w/ less heat. no sugar, no duck fat.

the bread has changed too, the baker makes a nice fluffy roll that is soft without getting soggy.

[Dave Burrell]

So, the contenders:

Folsom Bistro
Bidwell St. Bistro
Mark's Sports Bar
Red Robbin
Folsom Hotel (I think they still have a burger)
Scotts Seafood

I vote that we skip fast-food entirely.

Others worth nominating? I will update this list.

that's a pretty good list so far... and I agree - we're skipping fast food

I dunno if we should add Islands, personally I don't like that place but maybe some other folks enjoy it and want to add it to the list of contenders?

[Darth Lefty]

So what standard do you want to apply? What makes a good burger? What scale are you going to grade on? Do you account for differences in personal preference?

[Darth Lefty]

and I agree - we're skipping fast food

I dissent. Do I get a vote?

[Agent_007]

onion confit, they're just cooked for a long time in oil until they almost melt. like carmelizing w/ less heat. no sugar, no duck fat.

the bread has changed too, the baker makes a nice fluffy roll that is soft without getting soggy.

so i would challenge the use of confit in the description. caramelized would be appropriate. see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confit

thx for the clarification. and yes i love good food, really good food.

[folsom500]

I dissent. Do I get a vote?

How could you even consider a fast food burger compared to the others... ?

[fried chicken]

so i would challenge the use of confit in the description. caramelized would be appropriate. see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confit

thx for the clarification. and yes i love good food, really good food.

but they're not carmelized. confit just means "with fat." you could carmelize them if you wanted and call it a confit, but they're not carmelized at the bistro.

[Agent_007]

that's a pretty good list so far... and I agree - we're skipping fast food

I dunno if we should add Islands, personally I don't like that place but maybe some other folks enjoy it and want to add it to the list of contenders?

so let's not be generic in "fast food." i think people can draw their own conclusions on BK, McD, Wendy and other generic burgers. I would like to keep In N Out on the list. They use all fresh ingredients, not frozen and for the price IMHO they represent a great value. Plus there's so many ways to configure an In N Out burger I would assume people don't know all the choices.

As for ratings, it's not an up or down vote but rather the description of how they're prepared, made, presentation, quality and of course taste. from there I would assume we could find the BEST burger locally and good ones to recommend as well.

[Darth Lefty]

How could you even consider a fast food burger compared to the others... ?

So happens that the 6-dollar burgers at Carl's Jr / Hardee's are great, and I can't think of any of your hoity toity places making burgers "Animal Style" which is near to my heart (attack). And I don't think I want to go anywhere near duck fat unless I'm eating, you know, duckburgers or something. In Duckburg.

[Dave Burrell]

I dissent. Do I get a vote?

sure you do and in reply to your prior post - if you feel there is really a fast food place that could be a good contender then throw it out there - me personally I am willing to throw any biz into the mix that someone thinks is worthwhile

who would you like to add to the list?

for standards I'm thinking it should be a 5-15 dollar burger, nothing on the dollar menu at mcD's and the like should be in the contention

[Agent_007]

but they're not carmelized. confit just means "with fat." you could carmelize them if you wanted and call it a confit, but they're not carmelized at the bistro.

esoteric point; oil is not fat (it is fat but not in the sense of confit), animal fat is fat and that is confit so I agree with you on what is confit. is Folsom Bistro using animal fat (pork, duck, beef, chicken) or oil? if it's oil i vote caramelized.

[Dave Burrell]

so i would challenge the use of confit in the description. caramelized would be appropriate. see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confit

thx for the clarification. and yes i love good food, really good food.

I had to look that one up too because I thought it was just a fancy french word for caramelized onions, but I found that the confit part is really the mix that goes in when caramelizing the onions - they add balsamic, red wine or other vinegars to make it onion confit