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#1 Chad Vander Veen

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Posted 15 August 2007 - 10:09 AM

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#2 mylo

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Posted 15 August 2007 - 10:17 AM

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#3 FiscalConservative

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Posted 01 October 2007 - 08:48 PM

QUOTE(c_vanderveen @ Aug 15 2007, 11:09 AM) View Post
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I would suggest that you are actually in that 47.5% group!

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Posted 02 October 2007 - 06:51 AM

QUOTE(FiscalConservative @ Oct 1 2007, 09:48 PM) View Post
I would suggest that you are actually in that 47.5% group!


That would be a good jab if it made in sense in context...I'm forced to ask why you think these pictures don't show new construction.

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 02:21 PM

QUOTE(mylo @ Aug 15 2007, 11:17 AM) View Post
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What is funny about Sactowers is that the www.sactowers.com is STILL taking reservation and $$ for Phase 4. Whats up with that?

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 02:32 PM

QUOTE(palango @ Oct 10 2007, 03:21 PM) View Post
What is funny about Sactowers is that the www.sactowers.com is STILL taking reservation and $$ for Phase 4. Whats up with that?


Yeah... What IS up with that???

Downtown's with holes in the ground are really being revitalized! What a crappy downtown we have.

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 08:17 PM

QUOTE(DrKoz23 @ Oct 10 2007, 03:32 PM) View Post
Yeah... What IS up with that???

Downtown's with holes in the ground are really being revitalized! What a crappy downtown we have.


I'd be curious how often you go there and what you even know about it.

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 08:34 PM

QUOTE(c_vanderveen @ Oct 10 2007, 09:17 PM) View Post
I'd be curious how often you go there and what you even know about it.


Probably not as much as you... but plenty enough.

1) Very few people after sunset.
2) The K Street Mall is a joke... and that's what this city says should be the center-piece.
3) Landowners who are not willing to fix up or even rent out their dilapidated properties.
4) A big hole in the ground on one of the most prominent downtown streets.

I recommend reading Marcos Breton's column from this past Sunday's SacBee Metro section. It nailed this issue perfectly!

Yes... people are trying to make it better... but it still has a LONG way to go.







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Posted 11 October 2007 - 06:23 AM

QUOTE(DrKoz23 @ Oct 10 2007, 09:34 PM) View Post
I recommend reading Marcos Breton's column from this past Sunday's SacBee Metro section. It nailed this issue perfectly!

Yes... people are trying to make it better... but it still has a LONG way to go.

Downtown is a mess, thanks to that great Mayor Heather "Don't bother me" Fargo. She is a disgrace of immeasurable proportions. And, yes, the article by Breton was spot-on. Anyone who is trying to sugar-coat the problems with downtown should spend some time there...go ahead...walk around...check out the great "atmosphere"....but if you're there after dark, you're either lost or dumb.
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Posted 11 October 2007 - 07:00 AM

QUOTE(ChipShot @ Oct 11 2007, 07:23 AM) View Post
Downtown is a mess, thanks to that great Mayor Heather "Don't bother me" Fargo. She is a disgrace of immeasurable proportions. And, yes, the article by Breton was spot-on. Anyone who is trying to sugar-coat the problems with downtown should spend some time there...go ahead...walk around...check out the great "atmosphere"....but if you're there after dark, you're either lost or dumb.

Downtown's problems are deeper and longer than Mayor Fargo. She's just continuing the pattern. It's really simple to put blame on one person when there's a slew of Sacramentans that are the problem.

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Posted 11 October 2007 - 07:04 AM

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Downtown's problems are deeper and longer than Mayor Fargo. She's just continuing the pattern. It's really simple to put blame on one person when there's a slew of Sacramentans that are the problem.

That's obvious. But she is THE MAYOR....Mayors are supposed to take the lead, and she has been AWOL. Disgraceful.
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Posted 11 October 2007 - 07:55 AM

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That's obvious. But she is THE MAYOR....Mayors are supposed to take the lead, and she has been AWOL. Disgraceful.


I agree the problems were there before her but her track record is not good. Sacramento is not moving forward with her as a leader.


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Posted 11 October 2007 - 07:58 AM

QUOTE(john @ Oct 11 2007, 08:55 AM) View Post
I agree the problems were there before her but her track record is not good. Sacramento is not moving forward with her as a leader.

Totally agreed. But getting rid of her won't magically solve the problem. Like most things, it's going to take a group of people to affect change. Making a scapegoat of one person just perpetuates the problem. Yes, I'm sorry I voted for her.

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Posted 11 October 2007 - 08:04 AM

It's gonna take a long time to turn-around downtown. A loooong time....if at all.
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Posted 23 October 2007 - 12:05 PM

Yep... downtown Sac is THE place to go.

This city really has NO clue. How sad. Time for a complete over-haul of the city council and mayor's office.


SacBee Article
Tired of K Street blight, a state office pulls out
By Bob Shallit - bshallit@sacbee.com
Published 12:46 pm PDT Tuesday, October 23, 2007

Fed up with crime and blight, a state agency is departing K Street.

The Office of Statewide Health Planning and Development is leaving its digs at 818 K on Friday, and moving into a CalPERS-owned building at 400 R St.

A chance to consolidate staffers from two downtown locations into one building is partially the reason for the move. But not the main motivation.

"I've just had it with my people having to (work on K Street)," says Robert David, the office's chief deputy director.

"It's a scary work environment. Our people are accosted for money. Women are hassled. There's open drug dealing," he says.

The agency, which coordinates health planning efforts and hospital expansion, had a month-to-month lease for more than two years at the former Kress building on K Street, where it has 160 staffers. (An additional 260 OSHPD staffers working at 9th and P streets will be moved to R Street by next spring.)

David says the agency would have signed a new, long-term lease at K Street had the city been more successful at cleaning up the long-blighted 700 and 800 blocks.

"It's right on light rail and close to Downtown Plaza. Those are benefits," he says. But those advantages were outweighed by the area's problems - and by the frustration of waiting for city redevelopment efforts to kick in.

"It didn't look like anything was going to improve (soon)," he says.




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