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Arena / Prop Q&R Discussion
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, Sep 19 2006 05:24 PM
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Posted 19 September 2006 - 05:24 PM
A VETERAN
Whether active duty, retired, national guard or reserve - is someone who, at one point in their life, wrote a blank check made payable to "The United States of America" for an amount "up to and including their life".
That is HONOR, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.
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Posted 19 September 2006 - 09:00 PM
Not sure yet if I agree with you, Cal. There's some regional benefit to an arena here, whether or not the Maloofs decide to remain.
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Posted 19 September 2006 - 09:40 PM
An arena paid for by the citizens, yet the Maloof's receive all profits from parking, concessions and events. HHMMMMM...... we all know the Maloofs are great businessman, and they would never enter a contract that wasn't financially prosperous for them. Sounds like Sacramento is getting scre....the short end of the stick.
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Posted 19 September 2006 - 11:12 PM
QUOTE(tessieca @ Sep 19 2006, 10:00 PM) 
Not sure yet if I agree with you, Cal. There's some regional benefit to an arena here, whether or not the Maloofs decide to remain.
+1
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Posted 20 September 2006 - 12:17 PM
QUOTE(tessieca @ Sep 19 2006, 10:00 PM)
Not sure yet if I agree with you, Cal. There's some regional benefit to an arena here, whether or not the Maloofs decide to remain.
+1
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Posted 20 September 2006 - 12:20 PM
Ill vote yes. Hopefully this will help turn Sac into a decent city.
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Posted 20 September 2006 - 04:59 PM
VOTE YES ON Q AND R!
IT'S NOT ABOUT THE MALOOFS OR BASKETBALL, IT'S ABOUT A BRIGHTER FUTURE FOR THE SACRAMENTO METRO REGION.
IT'S NOT ABOUT THE MALOOFS OR BASKETBALL, IT'S ABOUT A BRIGHTER FUTURE FOR THE SACRAMENTO METRO REGION.
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Posted 20 September 2006 - 05:38 PM
VOTE NO NO NO ON Q AND R!
IT IS ALL ABOUT THE MALOOFS, THEY WANT IT ALL, HAVE THEIR CAKE AND EAT IT TOO....
IT IS ALL ABOUT THE MALOOFS, THEY WANT IT ALL, HAVE THEIR CAKE AND EAT IT TOO....
A VETERAN
Whether active duty, retired, national guard or reserve - is someone who, at one point in their life, wrote a blank check made payable to "The United States of America" for an amount "up to and including their life".
That is HONOR, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.
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Posted 20 September 2006 - 08:06 PM
QUOTE(camay2327 @ Sep 20 2006, 06:38 PM)
VOTE NO NO NO ON Q AND R!
IT IS ALL ABOUT THE MALOOFS, THEY WANT IT ALL, HAVE THEIR CAKE AND EAT IT TOO....
Wrong. The arena can be built with or without the Maloofs. I don't care which, as long as it gets built.
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Posted 20 September 2006 - 09:06 PM
QUOTE(c_vanderveen @ Sep 20 2006, 09:06 PM)
Wrong. The arena can be built with or without the Maloofs. I don't care which, as long as it gets built.
Me too. It's about Sacramento, not the Maloofs.
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Posted 21 September 2006 - 06:43 AM
QUOTE(cw68 @ Sep 20 2006, 10:06 PM)
Me too. It's about Sacramento, not the Maloofs.
If its about Sacramento....why are we raising taxes in Folsom?
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Posted 21 September 2006 - 07:52 AM
QUOTE(Robert Giacometti @ Sep 21 2006, 07:43 AM)
If its about Sacramento....why are we raising taxes in Folsom?
Because we live in the Sacramento region, duh. No city is an island. It is not US vs THEM.
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Posted 21 September 2006 - 07:58 AM
QUOTE(cw68 @ Sep 21 2006, 08:52 AM)
Because we live in the Sacramento region, duh. No city is an island. It is not US vs THEM.
and county!
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Posted 21 September 2006 - 09:30 AM
QUOTE(cw68 @ Sep 21 2006, 08:52 AM)
Because we live in the Sacramento region, duh. No city is an island. It is not US vs THEM.
So when New Jersey needs to build a new Arena...should we raise taxes to support them after all we live in the same country?
I guess I could use Cv's line that if you don't support New Jerseys Arena....then you can't see beyond your own region.
As you said, it is not US vs THEM!
Those who feel compelled to use your money to build a new Arena ...go ahead, I respect your right to do so! How about showing those of us who don't share your beliefs the same respect and NOT FORCING us to pay for something we don't believe in and traditionally has NOT been done in the past.
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Posted 21 September 2006 - 09:40 AM
QUOTE(Robert Giacometti @ Sep 21 2006, 10:30 AM)
So when New Jersey needs to build a new Arena...should we raise taxes to support them after all we live in the same country?
I guess I could use Cv's line that if you don't support New Jerseys Arena....then you can't see beyond your own region.
As you said, it is not US vs THEM!
Those who feel compelled to use your money to build a new Arena ...go ahead, I respect your right to do so! How about showing those of us who don't share your beliefs the same respect and NOT FORCING us to pay for something we don't believe in and traditionally has NOT been done in the past.
Now Robert, you're just being ridiculous and you know it. Do you use the Sacramento airport or the Folsom airport? When you ride on Highway 50, are you just using the Folsom dollars that keep it up, or do you use transit dollars that come to the Sacramento region/county? Would you never consider a job outside of Folsom? Would you recommend that Folsomites only work in Folsom and not take jobs into the City? There's a give and take that comes between the largest city in the region and the cities that surround it.
I bet Bish would agree with you 100% on the not forcing to pay issue, but there are many things that we all pay for that we don't believe in or use, but that contribute to the well being of us all. And in regards to things that have traditionally not been done in the past, that one doesn't fly with me. I'm personally all for change and think we all could use a lot of it! I want our government to think outside of the box and stop doing things certain ways just because they've traditionally been done that way. To me, it's a poor argument.
I know I've said this before on this thread, but I'm done here. Really.
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