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[mylo]

Folsom State Park rangers confirmed today that they are dealing with an alleged hate crime that has left one man critically injured after an assault Sunday night at Lake Natoma, near the California State University, Sacramento Aquatics Center.

http://www.sacbee.co...ory/254911.html

[Dave Burrell]

Folsom State Park rangers confirmed today that they are dealing with an alleged hate crime that has left one man critically injured after an assault Sunday night at Lake Natoma, near the California State University, Sacramento Aquatics Center.

http://www.sacbee.co...ory/254911.html

angry drunk Russian aholes beating up friendly people from India and Fiji - what jerks, I hope they get caught soon!

[bordercolliefan]

That is horrible. I hope they catch the people involved. It is hard to understand how 2 groups of people picnicking could turn into such violence.

[jafount]

That is horrible. I hope they catch the people involved. It is hard to understand how 2 groups of people picnicking could turn into such violence.

Russians don't think like Americans. Recent Russian immigrants, like it or not, tend to be HIGHLY involved in gang activity, organized crime, and a host of other not-so-nice things.

Alcohol makes smart people stupid and stupid people even stupider.

P.S. why is it only a hate crime when certain ethnic groups or specific sexualities are involved? IMHO any violent crime against the person of another is a "hate" crime.

[mylo]

The Russian Mafia strikes again...

[Al Waysrite]

I gather from these posts that bigotry against Russians IS acceptable to my folsomites, while any other form of bigotry is not.

[mylo]

I gather from these posts that bigotry against Russians IS acceptable to my folsomites, while any other form of bigotry is not.

Yes, Russians are white and in California it's legal to be a bigot against whites. You're a lawyer, you should know this.

[tessieca]

I don't get the hate crime part. Do you mean that if they just beat the guy silly because they're jerks and not because he's Indian that it would be a non-hate crime? Certainly not a love crime. Settle on dislike crime?

[folsom500]

I gather from these posts that bigotry against Russians IS acceptable to my folsomites, while any other form of bigotry is not.

What an arse- - the russian men claimed to be from the Russian mafia and Sighn was openly gay - so get a clue =- it is a hate crime - period ..

F500

[Steve Heard]

P.S. why is it only a hate crime when certain ethnic groups or specific sexualities are involved?

That is a common misconception. Anyone can be victim of a hate crime. Some definitions:

* Hate Crimes Statistics Act (1990): "crimes that manifest evidence of prejudice based on race, religion, sexual orientation, or ethnicity, including where appropriate the crimes of murder, non-negligent manslaughter, forcible rape, aggravated assault, simple assault, intimidation, arson, and destruction, damage or vandalism of property." ( Public Law 101-275)

*Bureau of Justice Administration (BJA; 1997): "hate crimes--or bias-motivated crimes--are defined as offenses motivated by hatred against a victim based on his or her race, religion, sexual orientation, ethnicity, or national origin."

*Anti-Defamation League (ADL): A hate crime is "any crime committed because of the victim’s actual or perceived race, color, religion, ancestry, national origin, disability, gender [male or female] or sexual orientation." 5

*National Education Association (NEA): "Hate crimes and violent acts are defined as offenses motivated by hatred against a victim based on his or her beliefs or mental or physical characteristics, including race, ethnicity, and sexual orientation."

[MikeinFolsom]

Here's the question.....would you rather be gay....or Russian? Seems like the pot calling the kettle black if you ask me. Send em both back where they came from. The US needs neither of them.

[john]

A terrible situation, no matter what the motivation. I don't care what your ethnic or sexual background is, pray for the well being of this man.

[folsombound]

Here's the question.....would you rather be gay....or Russian? Seems like the pot calling the kettle black if you ask me. Send em both back where they came from. The US needs neither of them.

OK, then why don't the Native Americans send all of us back where we came from? They damn sure didn't need us either. What an arsehole, homophobic, anti-immigrant comment!

[Solartide]

Cause they can't win through military force?

The natives tried, but the Americans killed them all, some with disease ridden blankets.

[ngilbert]

Here's the question.....would you rather be gay....or Russian? Seems like the pot calling the kettle black if you ask me. Send em both back where they came from. The US needs neither of them.

You said it! Send the Russians back to Russia and the gays back to.... to... um... well, back to whatever that country is that gays come from!