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#1 carla

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Posted 09 October 2007 - 10:21 AM

Anyone knows what the big tractors are doing there? Are they finally finishing the park? I think they started work yesterday.

I can't wait to see what they are up to.

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Posted 09 October 2007 - 10:32 AM

they've been pushing dirt for a while now... I have noticed the "Finish Livermore Park" fundraiser sign is gone. I wondered if the city finally decided to fulfill their obligation to the residents and actually pay for it. I always thought residents shouldn't have to pay for the parks out of their own goodwill - our taxes and mello-roos should be taking care of this; Lord knows we pay enough as it is!


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Posted 09 October 2007 - 01:18 PM

I've heard they are finishing it. I'm curious to know where the additional parking (which is planned) is going to be located.

Will the additional parking be near McAdoo and Carter or near McAdoo and Riley? Living near the football field, I am hoping it's near McAdoo and Carter. This past weekend, with the overflow parking area closed, the parking was more of a mess than usual. My gut says that, if the parking is located at McAdoo and Riley, that more of the overflow will park in the neighborhood rather than walk an extra 100 feet to park in a parking lot.

Anyone know the plans for parking? Just curious what's going where.
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Posted 09 October 2007 - 01:37 PM

QUOTE(tgianco @ Oct 9 2007, 02:18 PM) View Post
I've heard they are finishing it. I'm curious to know where the additional parking (which is planned) is going to be located.

Will the additional parking be near McAdoo and Carter or near McAdoo and Riley? Living near the football field, I am hoping it's near McAdoo and Carter. This past weekend, with the overflow parking area closed, the parking was more of a mess than usual. My gut says that, if the parking is located at McAdoo and Riley, that more of the overflow will park in the neighborhood rather than walk an extra 100 feet to park in a parking lot.

Anyone know the plans for parking? Just curious what's going where.


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Posted 09 October 2007 - 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(tgianco @ Oct 9 2007, 02:18 PM) View Post
I've heard they are finishing it. I'm curious to know where the additional parking (which is planned) is going to be located.

Will the additional parking be near McAdoo and Carter or near McAdoo and Riley? Living near the football field, I am hoping it's near McAdoo and Carter. This past weekend, with the overflow parking area closed, the parking was more of a mess than usual. My gut says that, if the parking is located at McAdoo and Riley, that more of the overflow will park in the neighborhood rather than walk an extra 100 feet to park in a parking lot.

Anyone know the plans for parking? Just curious what's going where.


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Posted 09 October 2007 - 03:36 PM

That looks pretty cool, and the parking is spread out, which is kind of nice.

I wonder, though, if they will be able to do the greenery in the parking lots (like the picture). The current parking lot at the football field, while not an eyesore, doesn't look nice like the one in the picture. The parking in the picture looks more like the lots at Kemp Park (behind Home Depot), which are nice looking...as far as parking lots go.

Overall, if everything goes like the pic, it should be a pretty sweet park.
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Posted 12 October 2007 - 09:05 AM

I like the master plan, it looks nice. I heard from somewhere that there was going to be a second water feature added. Is that anywhere, I can't find it.

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Posted 12 October 2007 - 09:11 AM

As for the parking on Carter Street, I don't think that will go away even after the parking lots are built. People will still want to park right next to the field and walk the shorter distance. The only thing that can be done is to put up No Parking signs down Carter, but then that means homeowners will not be able to have guests park on the street either.

I don't mind a few cars parked on the street, but I don't like rows and rows of cars. I barely drive faster than 15 MHP down Carter when there's a game going on (and if you are the one tailgating me please back off, I'll pull over soon when I find an open spot so you can pass me and surpase the speed limit of 25). I'm worried some stupid kid is going to pop out from between parked cars, or some idiot won't be paying attention and pull out in the street.

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Posted 12 October 2007 - 11:35 AM

QUOTE(tgianco @ Oct 9 2007, 04:36 PM) View Post
That looks pretty cool, and the parking is spread out, which is kind of nice.

I wonder, though, if they will be able to do the greenery in the parking lots (like the picture). The current parking lot at the football field, while not an eyesore, doesn't look nice like the one in the picture. The parking in the picture looks more like the lots at Kemp Park (behind Home Depot), which are nice looking...as far as parking lots go.

Overall, if everything goes like the pic, it should be a pretty sweet park.

They may be re-doing the parking lot in a permanent fashion. There are landscape and shade requirements in the county that including percentage of shade cover in parking lots.

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Posted 12 October 2007 - 08:49 PM

QUOTE(john @ Oct 9 2007, 11:32 AM) View Post
they've been pushing dirt for a while now... I have noticed the "Finish Livermore Park" fundraiser sign is gone. I wondered if the city finally decided to fulfill their obligation to the residents and actually pay for it. I always thought residents shouldn't have to pay for the parks out of their own goodwill - our taxes and mello-roos should be taking care of this; Lord knows we pay enough as it is!


Parks are traditionally built using impact fees from new construction. The City's Park Master Plan was significantly underfunded and Park construction costs have grown significantly faster than the increase in the impact fees. This has has caused the shortfall to grow.

Sadly it was always known that the city did NOT have enough funds to complete the construction of the Park Master Plan, it just wasn't widely broadcasted to the residents.

The Council, City Staff, the Park & Rec Comissioners , Youth Sports Groups and a few dedicated citizens have worked hard to help raise money to build as much of the master plan as they can without asking the citizens to raise taxes.

I don't believe the entire master plan for Livermore has been funded, so I seem to recall it will be built in phases, as funds are available.

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Posted 15 October 2007 - 11:49 AM

QUOTE(carla @ Oct 9 2007, 02:58 PM) View Post
Check this out:


It looks pretty nice...

Personally, I am a little worried by the extra lighting from the new softball fields... We don't mind the park, the extra noise and parking issues, and we don't even mind the lights, but this Summer I have noticed the lights on the existing softball field (and Volleyball) left on until well after 11 PM... To me, thats getting a bit too late...

I know other cities/sports leagues generally have the lights off by 10 or 10:30 PM... Hope thats the way it will be with those new fields...

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Posted 07 November 2007 - 11:58 AM

Was I just hearing things or did I hear the PA announcer from the soccer fields on Carter at 10:00-10:30 last night?? Do they play games that late?? I'm in Broadstone, and could still hear it. That's not right...was I hearing what I was hearing?? If so, people that live in WS should be ticked off. That's too late for all that noise.
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Posted 08 November 2007 - 11:35 PM

QUOTE(ChipShot @ Nov 7 2007, 12:58 PM) View Post
Was I just hearing things or did I hear the PA announcer from the soccer fields on Carter at 10:00-10:30 last night?? Do they play games that late?? I'm in Broadstone, and could still hear it. That's not right...was I hearing what I was hearing?? If so, people that live in WS should be ticked off. That's too late for all that noise.


I believe the noise and announcing you heard was from Folsom High School, they had events going late for the past few nights and I've heard the announcer (I'm in WS)...



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Posted 21 November 2007 - 11:56 AM

QUOTE(carla @ Oct 9 2007, 01:58 PM) View Post
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Thanks for posting the plan. It looks nice to me, too. But something in me has to ask: why do we, as suburban residents, always automatically define a park by its usefulness for sports? Don't we have quite enough of such "parks" already in Folsom? What about having one park which is all about paths and benches and trees and lawns and flowers and fountains? Has anyone in the Folsom city planning process ever put such an idea forward? Or is Folsom just too hot to maintain something like that at a reasonable cost? Or do suburbanites just not care, with their lifestyles? I would have preferred the build-out of Livermore Park to have been some simple landscaping (with plantings done by residents?) and some walking paths and benches.

I would love to have a park in Folsom where people are just strolling around, instead of shouting at some organized sports game. Yes, we have trails, but it's not the same concept.

South of 50 = Golden Gate Park?? :-)



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Posted 27 November 2007 - 04:00 PM

QUOTE(Rich_T @ Nov 21 2007, 11:56 AM) View Post
Thanks for posting the plan. It looks nice to me, too. But something in me has to ask: why do we, as suburban residents, always automatically define a park by its usefulness for sports? Don't we have quite enough of such "parks" already in Folsom? What about having one park which is all about paths and benches and trees and lawns and flowers and fountains? Has anyone in the Folsom city planning process ever put such an idea forward? Or is Folsom just too hot to maintain something like that at a reasonable cost? Or do suburbanites just not care, with their lifestyles? I would have preferred the build-out of Livermore Park to have been some simple landscaping (with plantings done by residents?) and some walking paths and benches.

I would love to have a park in Folsom where people are just strolling around, instead of shouting at some organized sports game. Yes, we have trails, but it's not the same concept.

South of 50 = Golden Gate Park?? :-)


I generally agree, why don't we have some nice quiet parks that don't have dedicated sports fields...

I tend to think the answer has to do with the usage the "park" will see. From a "benefit" perspective, a park with sports fields will benefit more residents (with kids and adult sports). AND, you can still stroll, sit , relax, watch the birds, etc in these parks (maybe not at the same time as a lively game of softball is going on)... So its more of a "mixed use" park, something for everyone... And in a town with lots of families, a mix use park is probably more needed...


I wonder, If we looked at raw acreage, how much of the parks are dedicated to sports? Isn't that Lew Howard park more of a quiet nature preserve-type, with no sports fields? I haven't been there, but thats my assumption.

And don't discount the trails or Folsom lake, plenty of areas to stroll and relax without cheering parents...




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