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#1 Dude

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Posted 27 April 2008 - 08:20 AM

I've noticed many trees being choked with the metal/rubber straps used when trees are first planted for support. I guess after planting they're forgotten about.

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Posted 27 April 2008 - 10:17 AM

You just go out and cut em yourself. Saves taxpayer dollars.

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Posted 27 April 2008 - 12:11 PM

QUOTE(Dude @ Apr 27 2008, 09:20 AM) View Post
I've noticed many trees being choked with the metal/rubber straps used when trees are first planted for support. I guess after planting they're forgotten about.

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Oh the tree-manity!

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Posted 27 April 2008 - 03:25 PM

Is this really a problem? Trees are not people and trunks are not necks... the tree grows right around the thing. Doesn't it? I've seen plenty that have. I can't recall seeing one that hasn't. But maybe they died.
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Posted 27 April 2008 - 07:10 PM

QUOTE(MikeinFolsom @ Apr 27 2008, 11:17 AM) View Post
You just go out and cut em yourself. Saves taxpayer dollars.

I have but before I'm arrested for vandelism...


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QUOTE(Darth Lefty @ Apr 27 2008, 04:25 PM) View Post
Is this really a problem? Trees are not people and trunks are not necks... the tree grows right around the thing. Doesn't it? I've seen plenty that have. I can't recall seeing one that hasn't. But maybe they died.

Not sure if it's a real issue but it sure looks it and they do keep growing but I'm sure it hinders it's growth, especially if it's a metal wire choking it.

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 11:10 AM

Trees grow stronger if they aren't tied up. They bend in the wind and generally don't break. If you feel that you just must tie 'em up, make sure there's a lot of play in the ties so that they move in the wind.

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 11:18 AM

QUOTE(Darth Lefty @ Apr 27 2008, 04:25 PM) View Post
Is this really a problem? Trees are not people and trunks are not necks... the tree grows right around the thing. Doesn't it? I've seen plenty that have. I can't recall seeing one that hasn't. But maybe they died.

I had a tree in my backyard I neglected to remove the strap from. I did eventually cut the strap, but the tree had an ugly scar. Later, the tree snapped right at the choke point in a highwind.
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Posted 28 April 2008 - 11:20 AM

QUOTE(Dude @ Apr 27 2008, 09:20 AM) View Post
I've noticed many trees being choked with the metal/rubber straps used when trees are first planted for support. I guess after planting they're forgotten about.

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Not to mention the watering systems that fail and you see a whole group of last years planted trees dead. What a waste of our tax payer dollars. If the city is going to plant trees for city beautification, then they should be smart enough to care for them.
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Posted 28 April 2008 - 11:50 AM

QUOTE(Darth Lefty @ Apr 27 2008, 04:25 PM) View Post
Is this really a problem? Trees are not people and trunks are not necks... the tree grows right around the thing. Doesn't it? I've seen plenty that have. I can't recall seeing one that hasn't. But maybe they died.


IT IS a real problem and will kill many trees- I carry a box knife on our walks and regularly cut the straps that bind them -- it will choke the tree and cause a major weakness- eventually causing it to fall or die of strangulation -- As CW says- it is best to tie them loose and let them sway some after the first year as they get stronger trunks that way...

by the way if anyone has any extra tree holding poles- ( or needs a covert strap cutting of an endangered tree rolleyes.gif )- let me know -
I need the poles for yard projects- along with any extra mirrors of any size -

We have likely cut over 200 trees from their binds on private and public property in the last few years...

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 11:53 AM

QUOTE(folsom500 @ Apr 28 2008, 12:50 PM) View Post
As CW says- it is best to tie them loose and let them sway some after the first year as they get stronger trunks that way...

This might not seem to be the case, but in the fall of '06 we planted a small crepe myrtle and had it very loosely tied last year. Last fall we removed the ties and it's still this small spindly thang. It survived January's wind storm without harm. It bent over, swayed and stayed strong. It didn't need the ties.

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 12:11 PM

QUOTE(cw68 @ Apr 28 2008, 12:53 PM) View Post
This might not seem to be the case, but in the fall of '06 we planted a small crepe myrtle and had it very loosely tied last year. Last fall we removed the ties and it's still this small spindly thang. It survived January's wind storm without harm. It bent over, swayed and stayed strong. It didn't need the ties.


some trees need them longer - but loose is better- and it is a fact as you suggested that the trunks get stronger if they are allowed to sway some

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 12:27 PM

QUOTE(Bill Z @ Apr 28 2008, 12:20 PM) View Post
Not to mention the watering systems that fail and you see a whole group of last years planted trees dead. What a waste of our tax payer dollars. If the city is going to plant trees for city beautification, then they should be smart enough to care for them.

Like all the ones on the Folsom road bike trail between Blue Ravine and Glenn... yikes.
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Posted 29 April 2008 - 11:21 AM

QUOTE(Darth Lefty @ Apr 28 2008, 01:27 PM) View Post
Like all the ones on the Folsom road bike trail between Blue Ravine and Glenn... yikes.

I don't drive there much, I was thinking of the ones on Blue Ravine between Bidwell and the Middle School.

There also were a bunch of redwoods on Clarkson behind Home Depot that died a year or two ago.
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Posted 29 April 2008 - 01:56 PM

QUOTE(folsom500 @ Apr 28 2008, 12:50 PM) View Post
...by the way if anyone has any extra tree holding poles- ...

Just a couple weeks late, I had several but I've already gotten rid of them. I'm curious, what's the project with them and mirrors???

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Posted 29 April 2008 - 02:18 PM

QUOTE(folsom500 @ Apr 28 2008, 12:50 PM) View Post
by the way if anyone has any extra tree holding poles- let me know -
I need the poles for yard projects- along with any extra mirrors of any size -

What do you consider a tree holding pole? I've got a bunch of 5 ft. metal fence posts I've used as tree holding poles. How many do you want? When would you like to pick them up?
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