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[driver]

Hi guys,
As you probably aware of, the CAL-ISO is about to start biuilding thr new facility near the Jhon Laing project, Hideaway @ Treehouse

http://sacramento.bi.../04/story2.html


The CAL-ISO also planning to use the Outcropping Way road (the main entryu to the community) to convert into their facility main entry, more traffic jams and noise are coming now !


What can I say :
Looks like the property cost is going down for this community

And Jhon Laing salesman didn'y really worked hard to disclose this fact to a new home buyers, interesting?

Be proactive and look for the details !

[Darthvader]

Hi guys,
As you probably aware of, the CAL-ISO is about to start biuilding thr new facility near the Jhon Laing project, Hideaway @ Treehouse

http://sacramento.bi.../04/story2.html
The CAL-ISO also planning to use the Outcropping Way road (the main entryu to the community) to convert into their facility main entry, more traffic jams and noise are coming now !
What can I say :
Looks like the property cost is going down for this community

And Jhon Laing salesman didn'y really worked hard to disclose this fact to a new home buyers, interesting?

Be proactive and look for the details !

They bought the land back in 2000, how do you figure the cost is going down? Cal-ISO provides an invaluable service, quit whining and worrying about a traffic jam. They don't employ 1000's of people genius. Maybe you should worry about all the other dozens of empty office space and bldgs along Iron Point instead of an asset to the city.

[driver]

They bought the land back in 2000, how do you figure the cost is going down? Cal-ISO provides an invaluable service, quit whining and worrying about a traffic jam. They don't employ 1000's of people genius. Maybe you should worry about all the other dozens of empty office space and bldgs along Iron Point instead of an asset to the city.

You probably not the one who lives there , otherwise you'll understand that having armed security patrol and generator around don't really help you property to appreciate.
BTW, they are talking about ~750 employees, so prepare your homework before response.

[Darthvader]

You probably not the one who lives there , otherwise you'll understand that having armed security patrol and generator around don't really help you property to appreciate.
BTW, they are talking about ~750 employees, so prepare your homework before response.

750? You think they all work 8-5? Wrong. Intel and the High School are more of a concern. And that location is somewhat odd for housing anyways and if you couldn't see that then too bad. Remember...location, location, location!

[FatBear]

Intel and the High School are more of a concern. And that location is somewhat odd for housing anyways... Remember...location, location, location!

I agree, Anybody who chose to live along IronPoint, especially the South-side should have been considering all the commercial development all along that area anyway, and should have realized the property values would likely appreciate at a lower pace than properties further from the offices... of course, how close to the townhomes will the building actually be?

I too, always found it odd that they allowed a residential development over there anyway. it Seems EVERYTHING on the southside of IP is commercial, from Costco/Circuit City all the way to Folsom Blvd, except that one development.


I guess it might impact traffic on Iron Point a bit during commute times, but otherwise, will it really be any different than the High School, Kaiser, Intel, etc???

For those people that moved into those townhouses, maybe its a problem... But thats something they should bring up with the developer that sold them their homes...

[driver]

For those people that moved into those townhouses, maybe its a problem... But thats something they should bring up with the developer that sold them their homes...

You're so right about it, unfortunately the developer representatives never mentioned that and we're(as many other buyers) even couldn't imagine this, and we'be purchased the house on end of 2007.
Now , of course, they are pointing toward disclosure documents or something like that....
When we were there, they only shoes us how great the vicinity is , the pond, the grass...blah ...blah...

We are really having a hard time now....

[Phonon]

If you're concerned about noise, why did you move into a place next to HWY 50? I toured that place at the grand opening, and the first thing that stuck me was the constant hum of highway noise.

[driver]

If you're concerned about noise, why did you move into a place next to HWY 50? I toured that place at the grand opening, and the first thing that stuck me was the constant hum of highway noise.

The noise isn't really an issue, once the last row of houses near the road will be completed, they will block the noise.
I've heard also, that there is a plan to plant some trees to make a buffer.
I hope it will be done ...

[asbestoshills]

You should be able to sue for non-disclosure......IT's suppose to be in that huge packet called environmental impact.....When u bought your property it should state what the land is zoned for and any potential impact it has on your property, right???

[mylo]

Property cost going down? They're building a $125 MILLION dollar facility, hosting how many jobs? Right next door! Talk about a boon to the local economy.

[rlsliger]

You should be able to sue for non-disclosure......IT's suppose to be in that huge packet called environmental impact.....When u bought your property it should state what the land is zoned for and any potential impact it has on your property, right???

Are you supposed to read that packet?

[Darthvader]

Are you supposed to read that packet?

No, you're just supposed to sue after falling for the sales pitch and not reading any of the paperwork.

That's the whiney American way, mess up, try and blame somebody else, and oh, see if you can cash in at the same time.

[asbestoshills]

Tell that to all the people who live in Rancho Cordova and got cancer from Aerojet because they weren't warned of the poison rocket fuel water they were ingesting it at 1000 x the allowed safe limit for over 50 years!
You go Darth! Most people, believe it or not, only sue as a LAST resort against corrupt corporations! I bet you would be first in line to sue if you got cancer let's say from an electrical power grid that you lived way too close to, but was never properly disclosed the leukemia risk........Maybe some of your neighbors got similiar cancers, but u can't really say it's a cluster because the it would take years for the center of disease control to call it a cluster, but u knew different....
Thank God for people who stand-up to these ruthless corporations ......Whistle blowers and advocates are the real heroes of this country...Next time someone you know gets cancer spend some time thinking about why there is sooo much cancer in the USA and then look around at the chemicals u ingest in just one day or look at the Superfund site less than 10 miles away......

[FatBear]

Tell that to all the people who live in Rancho Cordova and got cancer from Aerojet because they weren't warned of the poison rocket fuel water... You go Darth! Most people, believe it or not, only sue as a LAST resort against corrupt corporations!

While I would agree that MANY people only sue as a last resort, Looking at our general litigation-happy society, I would disagree that MOST only do so as a last resort (too many lawyers on both sides)...

I bet you would be first in line to sue if you got cancer let's say from an electrical power grid that you lived way too close to, but was never properly disclosed the leukemia risk... Thank God for people who stand-up to these ruthless corporations ......Whistle blowers and advocates are the real heroes of this country...

Whistle blowers are great, but what does that really have to do with this site? Does the EMF from "electric power grids" REALLY cause an increase in Luekemia? and at what distance from the source would the effects be expected? 100-yards? 500 yards? 1 mile? What about the risk of lung problems from moving closer to the freeway?

Hidden problems, like ground-water contamination, sure, but hazards such as living near power lines and freeways, I think there has to be personal responsibility for the choice to live there... Obviously, Folsom isn't the least expensive place to live in the area (so its not like this was the ONLY place someone could afford to live)...

And really (back to the subject), because Cal-ISO is building their OFFICE there, will there actually be ANY increased hazardous potential at that location???? Nuisance, sure, but how often will they be running the generator (testing?) and at what hours will it be going on?

Since this is basically an office, why would property values drop? Unless it was rezoned since you bought the townhome, it probably was known to be "commercial" anyway...

Is there a difference between Cal-ISO and another large business firm moving in? I really don't know if there is a difference (somebody fill me in on what will actually take place at the new facility that outside the realm of an office)... I thought they are responsible for purchasing and routing electrical supplies around the state, but NOTHING actually comes through the office... I work in an office, and we have big generators in case of power failure...

I think they should put the generators as far as possible from the residential neighborhoods, and test them only on weekday during "business" hours...

This is why people need to read the disclosures... The disclosures are there so that these "corporations" can't hide this stuff... This is also why you should hire a good realtor, someone that knows the ins-and-outs of disclosures, knows the areas and the neighborhood... And why you should read all the disclosures and ask questions, do some research before putting down your deposit...

Next time someone you know gets cancer spend some time thinking about why there is sooo much cancer in the USA and then look around at the chemicals u ingest in just one day or look at the Superfund site less than 10 miles away......

??? What does Aerojet have to do with Cal-ISO, or this thread???? With a screen-name like "asbestos hills", sounds like you might be a little bitter about not knowing about the area you live in before you bought???? I hope you're healthy...


Honestly, does anyone really know what kind of work they will be doing in this facility? Will it be any different than any other "office"?

[Darthvader]

??? What does Aerojet have to do with Cal-ISO, or this thread???? With a screen-name like "asbestos hills", sounds like you might be a little bitter about not knowing about the area you live in before you bought???? I hope you're healthy...
Honestly, does anyone really know what kind of work they will be doing in this facility? Will it be any different than any other "office"?

She's had a beef with Aerojet for quite some time. Even though during the late 50's and early 60's they followed the regualtions that existed at the time she still thinks there was intentional poisioning of the groundwater in this area.