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[poindexter]

Has anyone heard anything about the staffing changes at Oak Chan next year?

[mac_convert]

Yes the student population is declining so there are a few teachers being displaced.

Has anyone heard anything about the staffing changes at Oak Chan next year?

[Darthvader]

Yes the student population is declining so there are a few teachers being displaced.

You don't know what you are talking about.

[mac_convert]

Actually I do know what I am talking about. I'm sharing information I has told over the weekend from a spouse of a teacher at Oak Chan. With the ever changing staffing at lots of schools what I heard over the weekend could have changed by now! I'm curious. . . Unless you work at OC what makes you think I am wrong? I was just trying to answer a question with the information I had for the thread originator.

You don't know what you are talking about.

[futile]

I guess the plan to try and jump districts to get my daughter in there is out.

[sunnyCA]

Yes the student population is declining so there are a few teachers being displaced.

If there are fewer students at Oak Chan, why would they still need the same number of teachers? That does not make sense.

In light of this budget, FCUSD should/will maximize EVERY single classroom capacity...if a class can hold 32 at still get state $, I can't see them putting less than 32 in that class. If Oak Chan's population is declining, the thing that makes sense is to condense the classes and that would possibly mean that they lose a teacher here and there as they need 3 3rd grades instead of 4, etc. Those teachers with most seniority would move to other schools in FCUSD and those without enough seniority probably already got their pink slips and are out.

I think you are mistaken if you think there are ANY schools in our district that are NOT facing staffing changes....some teachers have pink slips and those that don't could be moving--either the grade that they had been teaching or schools, depending on how FCUSD decides they can utilize them best.

[mac_convert]

Now I see my error. I meant that more staff would be lost because of lower enrollment. SunnyCA I think what you posted will probably happen.

[rightwingknot]

Many schools will be reducing their teaching staff, some will stay the same. As the district increases classroom sizes, the number of teaching positions (called FTEs, Full-Time Equivalent) throughout the elementary schools is reduced. When a district looks to reduce the FTE they feel necessary to balance thier budget, they must look at it from a district-wide perspective. Student numbers at each grade level do not fit neatly in a box and thus several factors are considered.

In OC's case, 24:1 in grades 1 & 2 plus other factors has necessitated OC to reducing their staff by 3 FTE's. Thus, the 3 teachers with the least amount of seniority at OC will be reassigned to other schools, or what is called 'surplussed.' Those teachers to my knowledge at this time are Mr. Oliver, Mr. McCarthy, & Mrs. Itkoff.

[dori2u]

.In light of this budget, FCUSD should/will maximize EVERY single classroom capacity...if a class can hold 32 at still get state $, I can't see them putting less than 32 in that class. .

You are obviously not a first or second grade teacher - try teaching 32 5 year olds to read.

[sunnyCA]

You are obviously not a first or second grade teacher - try teaching 32 5 year olds to read.

I am not in any way advocating the abolition of CSR. In fact, I spent hours (probably in the range of 40-50 hours organizing, sending emails, making flyers, and coordinating efforts among elementary schools) trying to fight for the preservation of 3rd grade CSR. And, clearly my efforts and the efforts of many others fell short.

With this post I was simply pointing out that with the budget as dire as it is, cuts are indeed coming and while I wish it were different, FCUSD is going to max out its class sizes in every way it can. I am confident that they will go right up to the letter of the law. It looks like they are now taking 1st and 2nd grade to 24 students. I wish it were 20...I have researched CSR and I believe in it. I am also a realist, though, and I was just pointing out to the OP that cuts are coming to every school in FCUSD and so yes, staffing changes are imminent.

[normajean]

didn't mrs. tobias come in during the same school year as mr. oliver? wouldn't that make them both the same seniority???

[SandPebble]

Mrs. Tobias was hired one year earlier than Mr. Oliver unless I am mistaken. 2001 versus 2002. They could also have different prior experience/education that would affect steps and seniority.
SP

didn't mrs. tobias come in during the same school year as mr. oliver? wouldn't that make them both the same seniority???

[the_professor]

The only grade that has declining enrollment at Oak Chan is kindergarten. Greco has been laid off. Wallace is moving to the upper grades. Wolking, Oliver, McCarthy, and Itkoff are being surplussed. Livingston and O'Rielly will get new teaching partners from other schools. If class size in 1st and 2nd increases to 32 students there will be more changes.

[pet lover]

I doubt there is any school in the district that isn't having staffing changes. With the lack of funds from the state hard decisions will have to be made on how our district will educate the students. They should take away extra curriculars before they take away "the basics" - reading, writing, math, and science.

Are there any other districts in the area going back to 32? The district where I grew up isn't evening thinking about taking away CSR!!!

That's a lot of changes without the change in class size! YIKES!!!

The only grade that has declining enrollment at Oak Chan is kindergarten. Greco has been laid off. Wallace is moving to the upper grades. Wolking, Oliver, McCarthy, and Itkoff are being surplussed. Livingston and O'Rielly will get new teaching partners from other schools. If class size in 1st and 2nd increases to 32 students there will be more changes.

[sunnyCA]

I doubt there is any school in the district that isn't having staffing changes. With the lack of funds from the state hard decisions will have to be made on how our district will educate the students. They should take away extra curriculars before they take away "the basics" - reading, writing, math, and science.

Are there any other districts in the area going back to 32? The district where I grew up isn't evening thinking about taking away CSR!!!

That's a lot of changes without the change in class size! YIKES!!!

Yes, I agree that this situation is scary. It was challenging enough to fight for CSR while school was in session and parents were around to make their voices heard. I fear that many tough decisions will be made while most families are away and unable to comment. I hope FCUSD has the good sense to preserve what CSR we had left (1st and 2nd grades) and not move those grades to 32. That would be a huge detriment to basic learning...you are right: the 3R's should come before any extras, and at a 32:1 ratio in those early grades many kids are going to be behind in the basics.