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#1 john

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 09:18 AM

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 09:21 AM

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 09:23 AM

Stupid. Well, at least now all the selfish drivers who don't care about flying through a 25mph residential neighbourhood can get their important selves across the river faster, without having to actually visit the commercial district.

Fantastic.
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Posted 21 April 2010 - 09:27 AM

I actually couldn't get into the left turn lane to take the new bridge yesterday and remembered that city council said they were going to take the barriers down so I decided to turn at Scott and yes did bypass the historic district to head back towards the East End of Folsom and was happy I didn't have to deal with the dumb barriers. I do watch my speed and saved a little bit of time but I am normally a Folsom Damn Road (or Crossing) user so not a everyday thing for me.

I would think it would help all you homeowners near the district to have more routes to get around the only concern would be the Bar traffic and weekend traffic.

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 09:33 AM

Happy barriers are down but I say if there are speeders....ticket the heck out of them and full the city coffers. No tolerance for residential speeding.

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 09:35 AM

QUOTE (eVader @ Apr 21 2010, 10:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Happy barriers are down but I say if there are speeders....ticket the heck out of them and full the city coffers. No tolerance for residential speeding.

Go sit at the stop sign at Coloma and Figueroa for a single rush-hour. That place is a death trap w/ the barriers down.

Or watch the crazies cutting through Natoma to Figueroa to Riley, to avoid the right-on-red at Riley. Instead, they cut out in front of 35+ mph Riley traffic with no light. It's insane. And what are they accomplishing? Cutting in front of the safe legal drivers that were ahead of them in line on Natoma. Often cutting off the car that was directly in front of them before they took the "shortcut". Wow, flying through a residential neighbourhood, to beat people rightfully in front of you, by jamming onto a 35mph street with no controls. That's a good, safe, idea!
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Posted 21 April 2010 - 09:42 AM

Here's a challenge to anyone in favor of this:

The next time you take a shortcut through the HD, come back here and post your route. I'd love to hear why you took the shortcut and how much time it saved.
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Posted 21 April 2010 - 09:47 AM

Mylo, did you live in the historic district before the road barriers were put in place? Just curious.


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Posted 21 April 2010 - 09:50 AM

QUOTE (watstein @ Apr 21 2010, 10:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would think it would help all you homeowners near the district to have more routes to get around the only concern would be the Bar traffic and weekend traffic.

I used to live in the HD and was constantly impeded by the barriers. To get to the north side of the river I had to either drive the entire length of Sutter and back to Rainbow, or more-often-than-not dump out to Natoma and take Riley or Folsom/Auburn through.

Even with this *daily* inconvenience, I am an ardent supporter of the barriers and controls. Artery roads should be used to direct traffic flow safely through the district, not the residential surface streets that already experience commercial (bar) traffic and parking issues (getting locked in because some drunk parked on your driveway).

The bar traffic actually isn't that bad. It's kinda annoying when the motorcycles all peel out at 1:30am. But I would say that by-far, the worst is the commute traffic. The self-entitled business men and women that feel they don't deserve to sit in traffic like everyone else, and risk life and limb to fly through the residential district to get a few cars ahead. 8am on a Wednesday and Coloma is an expressway.

QUOTE (john @ Apr 21 2010, 10:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Mylo, did you live in the historic district before the road barriers were put in place? Just curious.

Hmm, I'm trying to remember. I think we moved in a few months before they were put in. I spent a lot of time in the neighbourhood, prior. Which was mostly post-Dam closure. Even as an inconvenienced resident, I'm still pro-barriers.

There is NOTHING to gain for the residents by removing them. Traffic is already bad and dangerous with the commercial district traffic (and the few illegals hopping the barriers as they stand today). Removing them will only increase an already dangerous problem.

The Historic District is a Commercial and Residential neighbourhood. It is not a "shortcut" from Folsom to Granite Bay.
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Posted 21 April 2010 - 10:10 AM

Not sure why anyone would be surprised by this.

After all, Folsom has become a speedway wherever you live, so why should the HD be immune from it??

Gentlemen (and ladies), START YOUR ENGINES !!!!

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 10:23 AM

QUOTE (mylo @ Apr 21 2010, 10:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here's a challenge to anyone in favor of this:

The next time you take a shortcut through the HD, come back here and post your route. I'd love to hear why you took the shortcut and how much time it saved.


You should have gone to the meeting last week and made your voice heard there, might have helped.... also be sure to vote for Ernie Sheldon again when the time comes, he was on your side and the only person who voted against it.

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 11:19 AM

I went through the HD yesterday on my way home from Raley's to the North side of the river. However, I wasn't going that way as a short cut, but rather as a scenic route...and a nostalgic route. (When we moved here there was only the Rainbow bridge and the Dam Road, Sutter Middle School was the one and only High School, Folsom Blvd was two lanes, and 80+ % of the current housing and businesses did not exist.)
Actually, I figured it would take me longer to go that way. My route was Bidwell to right on Coloma to left on Natoma to right on Scott. There's no way that I would speed through that area as my car is always in danger of the front end bottoming out at the intersections in that area. In fact, I barely crawl through some of those intersections. (So I guess there are already natural speed bumps/barriers -- at least for my car--not for a SUV. )

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 11:28 AM

The barriers were good. I am all for no shortcuts through residential areas. I really like how they made Natoma Station Dr one lane. I do notice less traffic and lower speeds.

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 01:16 PM

I normally go around the HD\Sutter Street dumping out onto Folsom Blvd for old new bridge or the JCM bridge because it is easier and avoid the "can't turn right" put up with the barriers.

I think some of the speeders and shortcutters are folks from gated communities where they live on comparably peaceful streets and don't hear Jeff Gordon wannabe roaring down the street. They get a fraction of the traffic and they have to follow a 12 - 20 mph speed limit or the HOA gets after them.

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 01:40 PM

Do you think they can install the ones they are taking down on my street? I think everyone is entitled to public traffic control on their 'private' streets.

Just sayin.

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