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[The Average Joe]

So, as a naive young lad, I admired NASA and was enthralled by the race to the moon and the many other NASA projects. I watched the lack of leadership there crumble a once great agency. Unfortunately, many hardworking and conscientious engineers are having their efforts directed by a bunch of imbeciles...starting at the President and working their way down to top management...

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NASA administrator Charles Bolden says President Obama has ordered him to pursue three new objectives: to “re-inspire children” to study science and math, to “expand our international relationships,” and to “reach out to the Muslim world.”


Let's examine this shall we?

Goal 1: to reinspire children to study math and science...Hmmmm, putting aside the fact that this is a goal for the freaking dept. of Education, as a child I was INSPIRED by the accomplishments of our space program and the future projects.

Goal 2: to expand our international relationships....Isn't that a job for the state dept? Aren't most major space projects international already?

Goal 3: to reach out to the Muslim world...WTF does that have to do with space exploration?

Every day the agenda of O get's farther and farther askew...

[Chris]

Just out of this world.....! Insane...! Our "Apologist-in-Chief" must go.... Can't wait to vote him out in the next presidential election....! Chris

[Dave Burrell]

Goal 2: to expand our international relationships....Isn't that a job for the state dept? Aren't most major space projects international already?

Goal 3: to reach out to the Muslim world...WTF does that have to do with space exploration?

Seriously??? He really set those goals for NASA? Is this some kind of joke?

[Bill Z]

Seriously??? He really set those goals for NASA? Is this some kind of joke?

I wish it was, but google news confirms this nonsense

[Dave Burrell]

I wish it was, but google news confirms this nonsense

holy crap, we are sooooo screwed!

[The Average Joe]

White house denies everything....

Obama decides it's bad pr to talk arbout restructuring NASA with this tidbit coming to light

[Folsom Guy]

I doubt very seriously if Charles Bolden said what he had been told were to be his top directives, as the head of Nasa, to just talk out of his arse.

This is a clear attempt to cover up the intention of Obama to incorporate the attempt to bring more Muslims into the fold and have them become as large a part of Nasa as possible.

I mean, we KNOW Obama is a Muslim and we KNOW he has interest in "balancing" the powers in this nation, as he has said himself. He wants to change this country into something he feels will be better, although most of the nation is not convinced of that.

There is a price to ethnic diversity, and it is diverse thinking about what this country should be. Trouble is, most of that thinking does not agree with our founding fathers or the Constitution.

Poor Charles just let the cat out of the bag!

Charles was talking to an Arab news channel and was obviousl trying to connect with the audience of that channel. I seriously doubt Obama would have used words to that specificity.

Here's another cat that is out of the bag...

http://www.thedailys...ou-weren-t-here

[Folsom Guy]

Real slick Dude - so quickly changed the topic...the right took a remark made on an international channel and stretched to weird length by emphatically emphasizing that NASA shud limit itself to space/research...and turns out when Reagan said something similar....go-off tangent.

Stats could be used either way and facts can be turned around in many ways - right has demonstrated mastery in this art.

If we pullout of mid-East and other Muslim countries - and leave them to their own self; I am pretty sure they won't bother us either. Why don't we?

As for other stuff - lots of Christian dominated countries are in turmoil - just look at South of the border. The biggest crime in the recent history was conducted by Hitler and Germans in the name of Christianity. Serbs, Croats and Bosnians engaged in ethnic cleansing. Haiti is a Christian country...

Heck even in our country, it is the Christians who are after individual rights....trying to get into our bedrooms.

So, yes, a provocative narrative can be produced by cherry picking facts and data...especially if the OP topic doesn't quite pan out along the expected lines.

Tell me, what are Muslims doing for space exploration?
The Reagan reference in your clip was referring to working with the soviets on space exploration - what kind of space exploration is the Muslim world working on these days??

Obama is a closet Muslim and he is pushing his religions agenda on America

Putting up a Mosque in the 9/11 location is a complete insult to to the thousands of people that were killed my Muslim terrorists. Put the damn mosque farther away, why do they insist on insulting us? And why do bleeding heart liberals like you support Muslims taking over America?

Islam explained in layman's terms

IF THIS DOESN'T GIVE YOU A JOLT!! NOTHING WILL. LOOK AT THEIR PROGRESSION. ARE WE JUST GOING TO SIT BACK AND SAY NOTHING?

Here is a perspective by Dr. Peter Hammond. Dr. Hammonds doctorate is in Theology. He was born in Capetown in 1960, grew up in Rhodesia and converted to Christianity in 1977. In addition to his academic work, he is a Missionary. I hope you find this informative.

Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam:

The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat

Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a beard for all of the other components.

Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges.

When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well.

Here's how it works:
As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:

United States -- Muslim 0..6%
Australia -- Muslim 1.5%
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%
China -- Muslim 1.8%
Italy -- Muslim 1.5%
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs.
This is happening in:

Denmark -- Muslim 2%
Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%
Spain -- Muslim 4%
Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:

France -- Muslim 8%
Philippines -- 5%
Sweden -- Muslim 5%
Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:
Guyana -- Muslim 10%
India -- Muslim 13.4%
Israel -- Muslim 16%
Kenya -- Muslim 10%
Russia -- Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

Bosnia -- Muslim 40%
Chad -- Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law
as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania -- Muslim 70%
Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%
Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%
Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%
Egypt -- Muslim 90%
Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
Iran -- Muslim 98%
Iraq -- Muslim 97%
Jordan -- Muslim 92%
Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
Palestine -- Muslim 99%
Syria -- Muslim 90%
Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%
Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of Peace.. Here there's supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:

Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%
Somalia -- Muslim 100%
Yemen -- Muslim 100%

Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

'Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; the tribe against the world, and all of us against the infidel. -- Leon Uris, 'The Haj'

It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even enter these ghettos. There are no national courts, nor schools, nor non-Muslim religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. The children attend madrasses. They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death. Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and extremists exercise more power than the national average would indicate.

Today's 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world's population. But their birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will exceed 50% of the world's population by the end of this century.

Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat

*Obama Appoints two devout Muslims to homeland security posts.

*Obama and Janet Napolitano Appoint Arif Alikhan, a devout Muslim as Assistant Secretary for Policy Development

*DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano swore-in Kareem Shora, a devout Muslim, who was born in Damascus, Syria as ADC National Executive Director as a member of the Homeland Security Advisory Council (HSAC).

NOTE: Has anyone ever heard a new government official being identified as a devout
Catholic, a devout Jew or a devout Protestant..? Just wondering.

Was it not "Devout Muslim men" that flew planes into U.S. buildings 8 years ago?

Was it not a Devout Muslim who killed 13 at Fort Hood ?

[Folsom Guy]

First, let me say I am not a Christian, nor am I affiliated to any religion.

But....I've not ever heard of the Christians today having any kind of LAW they demand the whole world follow as the Muslims want with Sharia Law.

I've never heard of a Christian killing his own daughter because she was dating a boy who wasn't Muslim.

I've never heard Christians stoning a woman to death for adultery.

And I've never heard of any Christian becoming a suicide bomber or terrorist.

Christians of the past are NOT the Christians of today, but it appears that the Muslims have not caught up to the 21st century yet.
Too many are still in the dark ages when it comes to being peaceful in their faith.

Facts are facts and one just has to look at those countries which are 100% Muslim to see the truth of what that faith is and does.

It is only an opinion that the OP's topic has not panned out......not a fact.

True - there's no Christian law that says stone people to deat - grant you that...and pockets of Islam have not emerged from their 15th century customs and traditions...

Obviously - you did not view the link.

[uberman]

The fact that Christians want to spread their faith in a peaceful way is strongly in contrast to the way Muslims desire to spread their faith.

Muslims still have a long ways to go to reach the level of blood shed caused by the Christians.

The Christians have such historical moments as: the crusades, the inquisition, the salem witch trials, the holocaust, slavery, violence against communists, violence against homosexuals, the violence against wiccans (and other pagan religions,) the list goes on and one.

Stop being so naiive. Christians have the most blood on their hands. Let's not forget about the catholics raping young boys.