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[Michael Hughes]

http://blogs.sacbee....ol-drugs-s.html

[Bill Z]

http://blogs.sacbee....ol-drugs-s.html

Hmm, Hillcrest?!

I guess the rich kids aren't always perfect angels.

I find it disturbing that the driver was found still strapped in and clinging to his steering wheel. How long do you think it took for the police to respond? Any good reason why the driver wouldn't have gotten out of his vehicle to check on his friends? Probably in shock and too scared to go see what he might find. If I was one of the ejected teens, I know I would have second thoughts about the driver being my friend in the future.

[Folsombuilder]

Hmm, Hillcrest?!

I guess the rich kids aren't always perfect angels.

I find it disturbing that the driver was found still strapped in and clinging to his steering wheel. How long do you think it took for the police to respond? Any good reason why the driver wouldn't have gotten out of his vehicle to check on his friends? Probably in shock and too scared to go see what he might find. If I was one of the ejected teens, I know I would have second thoughts about the driver being my friend in the future.

Heck of a comment there Bill Z. How do you know that they're "rich kids" and what difference would it make?

[eVader]

Wow that isn't good. Drinking and driving DO NOT MIX! One of the comments had a good suggestion with using any photos taken of the crash (not an accident) and present the first day of school.

[erfamof4]

That explains the helicopter noise I heard on the other side of the hill at midnight last night.....

[Fowler]

The article says "unlicensed driver" So did he steal the car or did his parents really not notice it missing? It's obviously too early to pass a judgement here, and of course I do hope the kids are ok, but I will say that I never had an opportunity at 16 or 17 to screw up this badly, thanks to good parenting. They always knew where I was and who I was with, and what I was doing, especially that late at night. Just my 2 cents...

[Sandman]

Not suprised a Ford Explorer was involved. There was a conversation going a few weeks ago about all the bad teenage drivers in Folsom driving Explorers...

[Rockport Family]

Hmm, Hillcrest?!

I guess the rich kids aren't always perfect angels.

I find it disturbing that the driver was found still strapped in and clinging to his steering wheel. How long do you think it took for the police to respond? Any good reason why the driver wouldn't have gotten out of his vehicle to check on his friends? Probably in shock and too scared to go see what he might find. If I was one of the ejected teens, I know I would have second thoughts about the driver being my friend in the future.

A cop arrived about 9 minutes after the crash. About another 4-5 minutes for the ambulance and fire to arrive. This happened in front of houses and people were on the scene in a matter of seconds. The driver stayed in the car because that is what he was told to do by everyone trying to help. Best not to jump to conclusions.

[old soldier]

somehow the good lord saw fit to make most teenagers fools...the lucky ones (and their parents) live through that stage.

[asbestoshills]

Stupid kids!

[camtdc]

Hmm, Hillcrest?!

I guess the rich kids aren't always perfect angels.

I find it disturbing that the driver was found still strapped in and clinging to his steering wheel. How long do you think it took for the police to respond? Any good reason why the driver wouldn't have gotten out of his vehicle to check on his friends? Probably in shock and too scared to go see what he might find. If I was one of the ejected teens, I know I would have second thoughts about the driver being my friend in the future.

[doj_gal]

somehow the good lord saw fit to make most teenagers fools...the lucky ones (and their parents) live through that stage.

I do not see parenting properly having anything to do with luck. My parents especially my mother, was constantly in my bidness' as I called it. Heck she still is to an extent and I wouldn't have it any other way. Yes, as a teen I hated it. Now that I am an adult I see it's purpose. My parents only let me drive with one of them until I was 18. I was never allowed to just take the car and was not given a car at 16 with free reigns. Kids that were, often had problems and some died from car accidents. I would never steal my parents car because they would have let me sit in jail...at any age, and if I did get out I would never ever want to deal with the punishment.

You teach your kids your rules/boundaries, which some will try to break. If they do, you have to then wrench down on their freedoms to regain the control. I snuck out as a teen to meet with friends. However, when I was caught (the third time/first time they knew about it) my parents clenched down and took away everything. My pager, any event, all entertainment including clock radio and the bedroom door was removed/window temperarily boarded. All my privacy was gone and anything of value was taken regardless if they bought it or if I bought it. I was required to do the entire families house chores, inside and out for two months. I was 17 and very upset. But, looking back I see it was to keep me safe and going out at night with boys is not something my parents would allow. The made the punishment so painful, I would not do it again without permission or against their will.

I am not saying that these kids are bad....but what they did was asolutely horrible and their parents should punish accordingly. Can't wait to see what they are actually charged with!

[Thinkingoutloud]

I was in a similar accident when I was 16, except I was in the bed of a pickup truck when it flipped over. No one checked on me either because yes, everyone is in shock, possibly injured themselves and no one is thinking clearly.

It's easy to judge, but that does no good. I was a good kid who made a bad decision - not uncommon to us humans.

I'm sure it's the same with these 4 teens. I know the parents are thanking their lucky stars that all escaped with their lives. I know the teens will learn from this experience. Glad that this ended on a good note and not with a funeral or two.

[Steve Heard]

I do not see parenting properly having anything to do with luck.

As you and your kids grow older, your perspective may change.

I often use the example of an old friend who had 3 kids. One grew up to be a jewelry designer, another a nurse. The middle, a trouble-making drug addict. Same house, same parents, same rules.

We do our best with our kids, but they still have to go out into the world and make choices.

[Bill Z]

Heck of a comment there Bill Z. How do you know that they're "rich kids" and what difference would it make?

Hillcrest is a gated community for custom homes with strict limintations on the smallest size home you can build on the lots. It's not a place the poor or your average middle class person can afford.