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[EDF]

Folsomites...

I think we as taxpayers should have it written out plain and simple so we can all see what the folks at City Hall and in the Folsom Cordova Unified School District make each year in Salaries and Benefits...

Seems to me if they are taking the taxpayers dime... we have the right to know...

Am I wrong here...?

[firemedic238]

A cities employee pay and benafits are public record. Most if not all teachers, are members of unions. The contract spells out pay steps. Most if not all contracts are also public record. With that said, If I pay you for goods and or services am I entitled to see how much you are paid? after all, the money I pay you or the company you work for some of it goes pays you.

[EDF]

A cities employee pay and benafits are public record. Most if not all teachers, are members of unions. The contract spells out pay steps. Most if not all contracts are also public record. With that said, If I pay you for goods and or services am I entitled to see how much you are paid? after all, the money I pay you or the company you work for some of it goes pays you.

I work in the "private sector"... so no you don't get to see how much I make...

Public sector...? big difference... they are paid by me and other tax payers... so yea... we get to see pay and benefits... only fair...

[mac_convert]

You may be contributing to public employees salaries but they are contributing to their own salary too! It seems like you're trying to stir the pot. If you want to trade jobs for a month I'd be happy to switch. I'm sure at the end of the month we'd both appreciate what each other does and probably have a lot less jealousy towards public and private employees. School is starting in a week. Want to take my first month of school? After that month then you have the right to think I am paid too much as a public employee. There is a valid point to this discussion in that most of us don't know what others DO at their job so we assume our job is harder than there job and they underperform.

I work in the "private sector"... so no you don't get to see how much I make...

Public sector...? big difference... they are paid by me and other tax payers... so yea... we get to see pay and benefits... only fair...

[The Average Joe]

Really has no bearing how "hard" ones job is. Unlike any private sector purchase, as a taxpayer, I cannot shop for best price or best value for my money. Therefore, it should be a matter of public record exactly where my money is going and for what. Blank checks are the devil's playground.... as has been witnessed over and over again....

[EDF]

Really has no bearing how "hard" ones job is. Unlike any private sector purchase, as a taxpayer, I cannot shop for best price or best value for my money. Therefore, it should be a matter of public record exactly where my money is going and for what. Blank checks are the devil's playground.... as has been witnessed over and over again....

now there's a nice post... couldn't have expressed it any better...

Public employees get benefits not found in the private sector... and like the Gov of New Jersey said... to a public school teacher making 85k a year... if you don't like doing what you do... don't do it...

[MikeinFolsom]

Here we go again......

EDF, I think you are a pot stirrer. You've posted the same topic time and time again. If you want to know the salaries of city employees, LOOK FOR IT. Go to the website. Each and every position has all of the step increases listed.

On another note, if your company is one that the government contracts with and uses taxpayer's money, the salaries of the employees working there should be public knowledge as well.

I'm beginning to form a picture of you. Perhaps you yourself have attempted to gain employment with a government agency but have been turned down time and time again? Sounds like it might be time to hit the ol' books and maybe upgrade your skills?

If you don't like what YOU'RE doing........maybe it's time for a change?

[tony]

Here we go again......

EDF, I think you are a pot stirrer. You've posted the same topic time and time again. If you want to know the salaries of city employees, LOOK FOR IT. Go to the website. Each and every position has all of the step increases listed.

On another note, if your company is one that the government contracts with and uses taxpayer's money, the salaries of the employees working there should be public knowledge as well.

I'm beginning to form a picture of you. Perhaps you yourself have attempted to gain employment with a government agency but have been turned down time and time again? Sounds like it might be time to hit the ol' books and maybe upgrade your skills?

If you don't like what YOU'RE doing........maybe it's time for a change?

City employee salaries can be found in the city budget, which is available on the web site (you may have to dig through cc packets to find it, but I've seen them. Not sure about the benefits half, but I'm sure that's there in some form as well.

[palango]

I have disagreed with EDF on many issues, but I agree with him 100% on this. As a taxpayer we have a right for a FULL and TRANSPARENT disclosure and not some 1500 document to sift through to find what the "range" of salaries are. Its just like state employees. Just go to sacbee.com and type the name of a state employee in the database and boom. .

[The Average Joe]

I would add that the cost of benefits and anticipated retirement costs should also be factored in to allow for a "true cost" of said salary range.

[doj_gal]

I have disagreed with EDF on many issues, but I agree with him 100% on this. As a taxpayer we have a right for a FULL and TRANSPARENT disclosure and not some 1500 document to sift through to find what the "range" of salaries are. Its just like state employees. Just go to sacbee.com and type the name of a state employee in the database and boom. .

I do not see the difference between paying taxes and wanting disclosure versus me buying a product and wanting to know what part of my purchase is paying that employees salary. I think the people that push this issue, are those who could not make it as a state employee or city worker.

I personally do not mind my position number and $$ I make being displayed. I think that the state should have accountability for how many employees they hire and what salary they pay them. I do have a problem with my full name, complete salary, work number, department I work for and position number being displayed for all to see. It invites drama for people who have restraining orders, theft and misuse of personal information for criminal personal gain.

What reasons can you as a non-state employee honestly give me for wanting to know what your neighbors or friends make? Are you going to do anything about it... or are you just gonna complain that your job does not give you the same? I think our population is too concerned with knowing everything about everyone. There are too many creepy, nosy nellies.

Plus, there are many private companies that get benefits that far exceed anything I could ever get as a state employee. Should I ask what they are making and give them the third degree when something I purchase from them goes up in price?

If you honestly have an issue with the benefits I work for, then write the governor. He's the Captain of your boat!

[doj_gal]

Sorry hun, that's the difference between being a publicly paid employee and private industry. Please, don't give me that baloney that those who want to know about these salaries do so because we couldn't make it as a state employee. You're the third state employee on here to make that ridiculous statement and its a weak deflection. BTW, how do you and all these other state employees have so much time to post during the day? Do your bosses know you're using state computer assets and tax paid salaries to screw around on the internet? Not that I mind, just pointing out the irony of all these complaints I'm seeing. In case you forgot who's your ultimate boss, the governor is the capt of your boat, not ours.

You do not know my schedule, not all employees work 8-5 and M-F...I do not! When I am at work buddy, I use my phone on my breaks...Yeah, I got one of those cool ones that can do that.

Arnie will be gone soon enough...TG...What do you do during the day?...Are you one of those SAHD's that do not do anything?...or are you at work and goofing off like your claiming that I am doing....you've posted your negative garbage on every topic today...spew your crude somewhere else.

Like I said, accountability is fine with me. I just do not need idiots/criminals knowing all of my information. There is no reason to put full names with all the other information.

[knittychick]

Should the pursuit of public information include Social Security? Should the names and benefit amounts be published for each recipient? Do all who choose to receive SS retirement or disability benefits automatically give up their right to privacy because we all have contributed to their benefit? What about unemployment benefits? I’m trying to understand why individual names are important as opposed to a job title or some type of identifying number and if the naming of individuals applies across the board or just to those employed by the government and excludes those who receive benefits, but are not government employees.