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[nomad]

Snow survey yesterday was awful, only at 20% of normal and it doesn't seem like any rain is in sight. The more beautful 60 degree days in Feb we have the more difficult it will be to catch up.

Most of the reservoirs are still full (Oroville and Shasta) which is good but have you seen Folsom Lake? 42% full last time I saw. It's gonna get ugly around here if we don't get some relief soon.

[Deb aka Resume Lady]

Everyone can practice water conservation. I do whether or not we're in a drought year. I just can't see wasting water.

http://www.waterusei...serve/index.php

[aztransplant]

If it's brown flush it down . . . if it's yellow let it mellow.

[AMETHYST PRODUCTIVITY]

Everyone can practice water conservation. I do whether or not we're in a drought year. I just can't see wasting water.

http://www.wateruseitwisely.com/100-ways-to-conserve/index.php

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[folsom500]

Everyone can practice water conservation. I do whether or not we're in a drought year. I just can't see wasting water.

http://www.wateruseitwisely.com/100-ways-to-conserve/index.php

That is a very good list. However there are a few items on it that I would not do. Listing two having to do with hand washing dishes and rinsing veggies and fruit.
On Item #2 about using one side of the sink for the soapy water and plug the other and fill for rinse water - Item 98 is a better idea. (of course we did the suggested back in the 50s-70s at home. )
IMO- dishes need a hot CLEAN rinse. As food stuff and other contaminates accumulate in the soapy water, transfering them into the clean side will also transfer contaminants some of which will remain on the dishes...Yuck

The other one is similar using a bowl or pan to rinse your veggies and fruits before eating or cooking-- Same Issue but worse as many veggies and fruits are full of chemicals and Dirt on the outsides-- Double YUCK

I also think shaving and brushing your teeth in the shower - with the water running will waste more water than at the sink.

Oh and at least one funny one- "let your lawn go dormant in the SUMMER" - with our temps not watering for 3 weeks= DEAD Lawn...
I have eliminated the front lawns and only have a small back lawn for the dogs ( and getting smaller all the time)
It is nice only having to water the front with drip once every couple of weeks in the summer.

Overall I think Folsom and other cities and counties should take this very inclusive list and put it in their newsletters or even in one of the yearly water bills.

[nomad]

Good information but everyone has failed to answer the question!

[Deb aka Resume Lady]

Good information but everyone has failed to answer the question!

Answer:

Panic? No. What good does panicking do?
Better to hold myself accountable for responsible water usage/conservation. If everyone did their part we'd be much better off.

That is a very good list. However there are a few items on it that I would not do. Listing two having to do with hand washing dishes and rinsing veggies and fruit.
On Item #2 about using one side of the sink for the soapy water and plug the other and fill for rinse water - Item 98 is a better idea. (of course we did the suggested back in the 50s-70s at home. )
IMO- dishes need a hot CLEAN rinse. As food stuff and other contaminates accumulate in the soapy water, transfering them into the clean side will also transfer contaminants some of which will remain on the dishes...Yuck

The other one is similar using a bowl or pan to rinse your veggies and fruits before eating or cooking-- Same Issue but worse as many veggies and fruits are full of chemicals and Dirt on the outsides-- Double YUCK

I also think shaving and brushing your teeth in the shower - with the water running will waste more water than at the sink.

Oh and at least one funny one- "let your lawn go dormant in the SUMMER" - with our temps not watering for 3 weeks= DEAD Lawn...
I have eliminated the front lawns and only have a small back lawn for the dogs ( and getting smaller all the time)
It is nice only having to water the front with drip once every couple of weeks in the summer.

Overall I think Folsom and other cities and counties should take this very inclusive list and put it in their newsletters or even in one of the yearly water bills.

Ditto on the points you raised above.

[AMETHYST PRODUCTIVITY]

Answer:

Panic? No. What good does panicking do?
Better to hold myself accountable for responsible water usage/conservation. If everyone did their part we'd be much better off.




Ditto on the points you raised above.

What she said.

[gbfolsom]

People who waste water are as frustrating to me as homeowners who refuse to use their blue recycle containers (Folsom makes it so easy to recycle)! Can't wait for water meters....maybe that will help educate the water wasters!

[momof1]

Time To Start The Water Shortage Panic?

There, is that an appropriate response?

[Robert Giacometti]

People who waste water are as frustrating to me as homeowners who refuse to use their blue recycle containers (Folsom makes it so easy to recycle)! Can't wait for water meters....maybe that will help educate the water wasters!

Be careful for what you wish for! Once metering starts, your rates are going to skyrocket! As more and more people conserve water, your rates are going to go even higher yet, because the city still needs the revenue.

As an avid conservationist and outdoorsman, I'm all for conserving water, but having a metered rate and additional costs associated with meters isn't worth it, IMO.

I'm not going to be real happy having my water rates probably tripled while I'm using less water, but if that is what makes you happy so be it!

[aztransplant]

Be careful for what you wish for! Once metering starts, your rates are going to skyrocket! As more and more people conserve water, your rates are going to go even higher yet, because the city still needs the revenue.

As an avid conservationist and outdoorsman, I'm all for conserving water, but having a metered rate and additional costs associated with meters isn't worth it, IMO.

I'm not going to be real happy having my water rates probably tripled while I'm using less water, but if that is what makes you happy so be it!

Funny, our average water bill went down when we moved from a .10 lot in Broadstone to a .30 lot in ARC South. We're liking metered water a lot more as we were tired of paying the same rates as people with larger lots and swimming pools . . .

[ducky]

Funny, our average water bill went down when we moved from a .10 lot in Broadstone to a .30 lot in ARC South. We're liking metered water a lot more as we were tired of paying the same rates as people with larger lots and swimming pools . . .

Isn't American River Canyon serviced by San Juan Water? Are your metered rates different than what Folsom's will be? Just curious.

[aztransplant]

Isn't American River Canyon serviced by San Juan Water? Are your metered rates different than what Folsom's will be? Just curious.

Yes, San Juan. Don't know how Folsom's rates will compare . . .

[ducky]

Yes, San Juan. Don't know how Folsom's rates will compare . . .

Well, if what I looked up is correct, no wonder you like your bill better.
You have a daily rate of $1.15, which will vary depending on the days in the month I guess (31 days would be $36.60 - our flat rate right now is $37.55). Then San Juan adds a charge .44 per ccf at 0 to 20 ccf, .74 for 21 to 200 ccf.

Folsom proposed residential charges are $15.00 flat rate and 0 to 20 ccf is 1.08, 20(I think this should be 21) to 40 is 1.30, and 40 plus ccf's is 1.60. The east area has a charge on top of this.

It looks like you have a higher daily rate compared to Folsom's proposed base rate of $15, but
San Juan has a more generous ccf allowance over 20 ccf and lower charge per ccf.

This is just what I've come up with after a quick look at both Web sites. If this isn't what your bill reflects or is totally wrong, please let me know.