The Folsom City Library
Posted 13 February 2004 - 05:52 AM
The City's usual cram down method of operation is at work here. They make the residents think they are participating in a process, particularly with the city council meetings, however, they do what they want anyway. This library issue is a perfect example. Therefore, the City Council recall issue, and the petition to place the library issue on the November ballot.
It is time to circulate these petitions for signatures. As a member of the group supporting the issue to build the library on any other site than the Marshall C. Farley Memorial Field, I am looking for Folsom residents to help with the petition drive on the recall issue and the issue to place the library location issue on the ballot.
Please contact me to let me know if you would like to help.
Posted 13 February 2004 - 08:38 AM
I would like to hear a history/summary of the library proposal from someone who was following it more closely than I.
Posted 13 February 2004 - 10:27 AM
The library will be built where the city wants it.
I am not for any recall of any city council members.
If a petition is started to relocate the location of the library somewhere else in Folsom I might be for that. However, anyone starting such a petition had better have a better location or two to be cosidered.
Posted 13 February 2004 - 10:59 AM
I'm sure the city will be more than willing to build a more suitable memorial for Mr. Farley than a rock... perhaps even naming the new library after Mr. Farley. I definitely don't want him to go unnoticed, and believe me, after this hoopla, he won't.
The Lions Club should be ashamed of themselves. If they are not part of the solution, they are part of the problem!!!
Let's stop bickering and build the friggin' library. Got off your high horse and don't give me this recall crap. It's a bunch of nonsense, and you know it.
Posted 13 February 2004 - 01:59 PM
I understand that the Farley family has stated that they are not opposed to locating the library there.
I agree that the city should do something -- perhaps naming all or part of the library after him?-- to memorialize Mr. Farley. I believe the City Council is already working on determining an appropriate way to do this.
I know if I were dead, I would rather be remembered with a library that hosted hundreds of citizens every day (including children thrilled to be learning about books) than with a run-down ballfield that never seems to be used.
Posted 13 February 2004 - 03:22 PM
Posted 13 February 2004 - 03:46 PM
The few who now oppose it and say they were not informed, are not telling the truth. "Mr. Parks & Recreation" himself, Ernie Sheldon, met with them BEFORE the proposal was ever made public!!!
The site of an OLD, UNUSED SOFT BALL FIELD IS NOT GOING TO DETRACT IN ANY WAY FROM CITY pARK---IT WILL ENHANCE IT!
The site is CENTRALLY LOCATED, accessable to school children, seniors, electric wheel chair drivers AND it will be a part of the "Civic Center". One stop "shopping" for the zoo, train, Rodeo Park, Community Center, City Hall, Police, as well as the Library.
This new library building is GEORGOUS, with open expanse to the Gazebo and the rest of the park. It does not in any way dishonor ANY VET.
A beautiful library will do more to honor ALL veterans who fought for the freedoms of this country----especially the freedom to READ AND LEARN, than a rock buried in dirt that most people don't even know about, much less see!!
Those few who oppose the plan were stirred up and misinformed by someone who has some unfathomable reason for trying to delay and deprive all Folsom city residents and taxpayers as well as neighboring communities of a "jewel" that Folsom has needed for 10 years!
Get with it!! Get a life!! Face reality!! Think of what is best for ALL of Folsom.
Posted 13 February 2004 - 05:00 PM
Posted 13 February 2004 - 05:55 PM
Posted 13 February 2004 - 07:22 PM
Desperate times call for desperate measures. Hence the recall. These people are out-voted by the masses that have flocked to Folsom in recent years. The recall will probably do nothing but draw attention to the issue and hopefully get the City Council to revisit the issue. If the City is intent on going forward, ground will be broken before an election held. The City can work real fast once it makes up its mind. Remember how it took years of looking at that crummy sign for the Acquatic Center that was a joke? Those who wanted it built were told there was no money. But when the idea finally took hold at City Hall, it was built lickity-split.
Also, read Jack Kipps column in the last two issues of the Folsom Telegraph. He's the historian who knows what really happened. None of the property on which the park, community center, city hall and fire department today rest would have been affordable if it weren't for the Lions and their friends.
Oh yeah, don't accuse those who oppose location of being anti-library. Talk to the lady that was on the committee to select a library site who insists this site was never on the list but was added much later. Community input, my arse.
Posted 14 February 2004 - 08:38 AM
By saving the Fire Station building next to City Hall, P & R gain space for some of their needs; a Senior Center will be there, and space for other needs.
There will not be the ADDITIONAL expense of tearing that building down and as a result having to deal with asbestos!
There is a saving there of over $100,000,00.
Why can't the opposition to the park area library site take a look at the plan when it is approved and see that it will ENHANCE the area, not degrade it.
There are now many more softball fields in Folsom, BUT THERE STILL IS NO ADEQUATE LIBRARY!!!
Folsom has become a large city since that old softball field was made. It has more residents which means more, larger needs. That is progress!
If it were not for progress in Folsom, we all would still be dressed in gold miner garb and reading hand me around books by candle light!
DO NOT THROW AWAY A CHANCE FOR ALL OF FOLSOM TO ENJOY THIS BEAUTIFUL, LONG OVERDUE JEWEL, AT AN AFFORDABLE PRICE!!!!!
Posted 14 February 2004 - 10:10 AM
Posted 15 February 2004 - 10:24 PM
Candy Apple, you insult those who have a different point of view when you say that without progress we'd be wearing gold miner garb and reading by candlelight. Maybe one day, you'll be old and realize how snotty your remarks are. Sure, change is inevitable, but not all change is progress. Some folks are old enough to understand this.
Talk to families who lost somebody while serving their country, whether it was WWII, Korea, Vietnam. Memorials are meant to stay put...almost hallowed ground. Just because the new library will be fabulous, doesn't make it right that it should be built on this spot.
And don't give us the same old, miss an opportunity story. There's no good reason the library cannot be built elsewhere. I seem to recall that there was a design for the library on the Fire Station site. But now that the spot has been promised to those you are lusting for a senior center, neighbors are pitted against neighbors. Gosh, those pea- brained Lions and Vets, how dare they get in the way of the important needs of the Library people and the Sr Center people???
As for tearing down the Fire Station as an expensive alternative, who the heck planned our city so that so many fire stations are having to be closed while new ones built????
Posted 16 February 2004 - 03:22 PM
Building the library on an old "seldom" used softball field at the edge of city park is NOT paving over a memorial.
As to my age, at almost 76 I can recognize the good and bad things about "progress".
Even Marshall Farley's family do not object to the library site. The memorial or one to all vets will be honored, and building the new library building on a site which will save all Folsom taxpayers money will not desecrate the memorial.
The truth of the matter is there are very few pieces of land left in central Folsom and the cost to YOU AND ME would mean Folsom does not get an ADEQUATE library. If you think otherwise, do the research and present it to the CC.
How many fire stations have been closed just for the heck of it by the city???
One was closed because of an extreme mold factor that was a medical threat. The Fire head quarters on Natoma is closing after move to needed expanded building. The Natoma street building will be used for a long needed Senior Center and Parks & Rec. dept. uses, as well as other uses.
Wheather anyone likes it or not, "progress" brings changes---some good, some, not so good, and some bad. Folsom has been changing since the gold miner days, especially the size and population of same.
The truth is a city of 60,000 to 70,000 people is a big change. The existing 7000 sq. ft. library does not serve ADEQUATELY that size population.
WE ALL WOULD HAVE TO VOTE A BIG INCREASE IN TAXES TO BUY A PIECE OF LAND NEEDED FOR AN ADEQUATE LIBRARY, IF THERE WAS ONE STILL AVAILABLE.
I did NOT intend to offend anyone with my statement of facts.
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