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[Dave Burrell]

Over the past few months, it seems there has been an increase of crime in Folsom, perpetrated by outsiders. Why do you think that is?

How odd, two completely opposite headlines today
1) Folsom is the safest city and 2) Increase of crime in Folsom

[dlutz]

I live in the neighborhood and saw it happen. Actually talked to the police once the guy was removed from the scene.

Here are some facts. Yes the house only has only one direct neighbor, He was renting it from someone who lives in the Bay Area, and they don't think he was selling directly from the house.

They've been keeping an eye on him for a while and finally made the bust the other day. It's not clear whether he actually lived there or just used it as a safe house. Talking with a number of neighbors, no one really saw the guy very often, obviously he was trying to keep a low profile.

Update: It looks like some of his buddy's are at the house right now packing up his personal stuff. Not sure what he's going to need it for, maybe it'll go up on ebay to pay for his defense fund.

[brown]

Update: It looks like some of his buddy's are at the house right now packing up his personal stuff. Not sure what he's going to need it for, maybe it'll go up on ebay to pay for his defense fund.

The only thing he'll probably need is soap on a rope.

[Dave Burrell]

Where did people ever get the idea that crime was always perpetrated by a local?

For years Folsom has had people coming here and shop lifting, stealing cars and anything they could lay their hands on. Why does it upset you that this is the case?

The way I see it, most of the residents in Folsom are law abiding and so that gives us a low crime area status. Naturally more crime here will be perpetrated by those who live else where. Folsom is where the nice homes, cars and high tech electronics are.

Would it make more sense for criminals to just do their crimes in the areas they live, when the real pricey items are in the nicer areas of towns like Folsom? I don't think so.

Take a chill pill......

go easy there cowpoke, you need to chill too - you're putting words into Steve's mouth and twisting what he said. He didn't say he was upset nor did he say Folsom shouldn't be a magnet for these crimes... nor did he say crime is always perpetuated by a local

I've noticed you like to jump on Steve's case a lot ... is it because he's a democrat? - or maybe its because he's black? (I'm joking)

You do realize Roseville has nice homes, cars and high tech solutions too right?, so does Granite Bay (even nicer then Folsom), so does Rocklin, so does El Dorado Hills....

Folsom is not the exclusive rich neighborhood of the Sacramento area for criminals to hit regularly.

[hopeanelli]

go easy there cowpoke, you need to chill too - you're putting words into Steve's mouth and twisting what he said. He didn't say he was upset nor did he say Folsom shouldn't be a magnet for these crimes... nor did he say crime is always perpetuated by a local

I've noticed you like to jump on Steve's case a lot ... is it because he's a democrat? - or maybe its because he's black? (I'm joking)

You do realize Roseville has nice homes, cars and high tech solutions too right?, so does Granite Bay (even nicer then Folsom), so does Rocklin, so does El Dorado Hills....

Folsom is not the exclusive rich neighborhood of the Sacramento area for criminals to hit regularly.

Thank You D...+1000

Love this forum and most of the posters but sometimes (some of you) come off so "hoity toity" People Folsom is nice I love it here well I did when I first moved here getting a little "snobby" lately but it's just a typical nice place to live and raise your kids and the crime well hey the times are rough people got to do what they got to do its sad but it is what it is

[Steve Heard]

Where did people ever get the idea that crime was always perpetrated by a local?

For years Folsom has had people coming here and shop lifting, stealing cars and anything they could lay their hands on. Why does it upset you that this is the case?

The way I see it, most of the residents in Folsom are law abiding and so that gives us a low crime area status. Naturally more crime here will be perpetrated by those who live else where. Folsom is where the nice homes, cars and high tech electronics are.

Would it make more sense for criminals to just do their crimes in the areas they live, when the real pricey items are in the nicer areas of towns like Folsom? I don't think so.

Take a chill pill......

Think about your typical high-crime area, say parts of Rancho Cordova or South Sac, is that where the nice homes, cars and high tech electronics are?

While such things may indeed attract theives, far more theft goes on in other areas. Theives will take whatever they can, and most do it in their own areas because they know the areas. Naturally, more crimes are committed by people in their own home towns and neighborhoods.

I wasn't jumping on Steve's case...and I don't care for your accusations about me always going after him. I think it is Steve who is always coming after me. But from now on, I'll make sure not to address any of his posts, and hope he will do like wise with mine.
How's that? And, I just took the chill pill....not to worry.

Steve was criticizing The Blaze for how they wrote the headline of a news article because it pointed to outsiders coming here to commit crimes. I found that to be uncalled for, until I went to the link and saw the picture of the man arrested. The man was black.

Could it be that Steve would not have had an objection to the news article if the criminal in the picture was white? You brought up race, not me. So I might as well tell it like I see it.

I guess when the Folsom police catch a criminal that is black, his picture should not be shown?

Sorry, but New Blaze has a right to print the news the way they see fit and I support them in doing that.

My objection was not to the color of the man's skin. Newsblaze supported his belief that we've got an outsider crime wave by pointing out the 2 recent stories about 2 recent crimes. In one case, the perpetrator was black, and being that he was busted at the home he was renting, he may not qualify as an 'outsider', and may in fact be a local.

The other perpetrators were white.

I suppose I could take those two stories and write a headline, "White Criminals in Folsom Outnumber Black Ones 2 to 1."

I would be correct, if I used only those cases as representative of crime in Folsom. They are not, and are not indicative of an outsider crime wave.

I can't promise you I won't comment on things you say on the forum if I disagree with them, and you are free to disagree with me.

Bottom line is that if one is to write a headline that outsiders are bringing crime, one needs to cite facts and numbers, not just show one crackhead who may qualify as a local.

[Steve Heard]

Your observations make some sense and I tend to agree, however, to admonish a local news source for the title they chose to report a crime, is trying to take away their right to free speech....in my book. I think it was a good title to wake residents up and place them on the alert to lock their doors and be aware that we don't live in a crime free city, just because most who live here are law abiding.

I don't like it when the news is censored or altered to make people more comfortable with what is being reported, nor do I think it makes for good policy.

I don't want to censor Newsblaze, nor abridge his rights to free speech and freedome of the press. I just thought, and still do think, the headline was erroneous at best. I just want the headlines to be accurate.

Imagine this conversation:

Party A: "Hey, Folsom has a wave of oustiders coming in committing crimes!"

Party B: Really, where'd ya hear that?

A: "It was on Newsblaze. They said a guy who rents a house on Swinton got busted making crack!"

B: "He rents a house in Folsom? Doesn't that make him a local, rather than an outsider? Never mind, what else?"

A: "Um...that's it."

B: "That's it!? One renter gets busted for making crack and it equates to a crime wave of outsiders?"

A: "Umm...I see your point."

"Folsom resident busted for making crack" would have been more accurate, but less sensational.

[mylo]

I admit, I was at least expecting statistics. "Last year, crimes from non-residents was X%, this year crime has doubled and crimes by non-residents up to Y%". That would've deserved the title a little better.

[Folsom Guy]

If I remember right, a few years ago, the Folsom of Mayor got caught in South Sac area with his pants down after making a very high profile speech about the virtues of Folsom....some Folsom cops got in trouble recently...

What should the headline be.....

[ducky]

If I remember right, a few years ago, the Folsom of Mayor got caught in South Sac area with his pants down after making a very high profile speech about the virtues of Folsom....some Folsom cops got in trouble recently...

What should the headline be.....

You know what, I see that former mayor at every Veteran's Day parade. I think it takes a lot of guts to do that.