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[JRudi]

And JRudi, why are you not picking on Steve Miklos, Jeff Starsky, Andy Morin? Do they walk on water and have all of their votes been just the way you wanted them? Why should Kerri vote along with them all the time? Do you think every vote should be 5-0 in favor of the way the ex fire fighter and the lawyer vote?

Get serious.

I don't think I've complimented any of the other council members in my posts. In fact, I have concerns with all the ones you mentioned. But, I have the greatest concern, by far, with Kerri. And, I've expressed my reasons for this in prior posts.

Again, I urge you to judge her on her actions. Closely analyze her voting record, ask the people in city hall what she is capable of resorting to (to benefit herself and her big-money developer buddies), and carefully evaluate her character. I'm sure you'll come to the same conclusion that many others and I have come to - she just isn't suited to make decisions that affect the people in this community.

[JRudi]

So let me see if I get your point, you dislike Kerri and are on a mission to discredit her and paint her to be the sole bad guy on the city council, even though she's the only one who will carry on a conversation with citizens and take input and provide answers here on this forum, via emails, on the phone and in-person. While the good old boys who have very close ties with developers and have spearheaded most of the bad decisions around here and wouldn't answer your email or phone call even if you paid them, they're ok and not so bad in your book?

Robert, is that you?

Again, I don't particularly care for the other ones, either. But I place character at a very high priority for my elected officials, and this is where she fails more than the others. As I've indicated in other posts, check into her voting record on issues that reveal character. Check into her lifestyle, and friends. It all points to one thing -she's not suited, and never has been, to make decisions for the people and the families in this community.

Again, we need to hold our local elected officials to a higher standard.

[Dave Burrell]

Again, I don't particularly care for the other ones, either. But I place character at a very high priority for my elected officials, and this is where she fails more than the others. As I've indicated in other posts, check into her voting record on issues that reveal character. Check into her lifestyle, and friends. It all points to one thing -she's not suited, and never has been, to make decisions for the people and the families in this community.

Again, we need to hold our local elected officials to a higher standard.

First, Welcome to the forum

Next, I hope you don't mind me saying, but I find it very odd that all your posts are entirely focused on Kerri, it seems you have a serious vendetta against her.

I'd like to hear the same amount of passion and well researched information about all the other candidates too, you know, to make it fair, and to not just seem like your posts are always and only about an all out attack on Kerri.

I find it dis-concerning that you brush off all comments about the others to the side while continuing your tirade against Kerri.... it just seems all too obvious that you really just have it out for her and are only on a mission to discredit her and get people here to dislike her .... no offense, just letting you know how I'm reading it....

My advice (2 cents) If you're really concerned about improving things on the council, you should focus your energy on investigating ALL of the current council members, all their voting records, all their characters etc to determine which ones are right and which are wrong for the future of our city. I myself have not made that decision yet as I am still doing my own investigating on all the candidates, particularly the new ones...

[camay2327]

jrudi, you are sort of a newcomer and welcome...old soldier has more wisdom that most of the posters according to his fan club and he has described his ability to see issues like an eagle by day and an owl by night.

Yes,, JRudi, who are you? Where do you work? Why are you all of a sudden on here spitting out things about one city council member when it takes 3 to pass an item?

Who are you?

Have you ever heard of the words:

Defamation—also called calumny, vilification, slander, and libel

[Robert Giacometti]

So let me see if I get your point, you dislike Kerri and are on a mission to discredit her and paint her to be the sole bad guy on the city council, even though she's the only one who will carry on a conversation with citizens and take input and provide answers here on this forum, via emails, on the phone and in-person. While the good old boys who have very close ties with developers and have spearheaded most of the bad decisions around here and wouldn't answer your email or phone call even if you paid them, they're ok and not so bad in your book?

Robert, is that you?

No its NOT me!

I'm NOT supporting ANY of the Incumbants, but will say that if I approach Steve or Andy and ask them questions in an approrpiate manner THEY will respond. Kerrie will do this as well. Ernie returns phone calls all the time.

Dude, I don't know how to tell you this so you will hear it and understand, but its Kerri who is a close to the developers as ANYONE on the council! Which council member is defending the developers from paying their true costs of planning S50...its Kerri!

If you want to keep shooting yourself in the foot by supporting Kerri, I just hope by the time you realize what is happening you still have a few toes left and you recognize Folsom.

[camay2327]

No its NOT me!

I'm NOT supporting ANY of the Incumbants, but will say that if I approach Steve or Andy and ask them questions in an approrpiate manner THEY will respond. Kerrie will do this as well. Ernie returns phone calls all the time.

Dude, I don't know how to tell you this so you will hear it and understand, but its Kerri who is a close to the developers as ANYONE on the council! Which council member is defending the developers from paying their true costs of planning S50...its Kerri!

If you want to keep shooting yourself in the foot by supporting Kerri, I just hope by the time you realize what is happening you still have a few toes left and you recognize Folsom.

Robert, aren't they all taking money from the developers? It isn't just Kerri.

[JRudi]

Robert, aren't they all taking money from the developers? It isn't just Kerri.

My understanding is the Andy Morin has funded his own campaigns in the past. He has not accepted any contributions.

[JRudi]

Yes,, JRudi, who are you? Where do you work? Why are you all of a sudden on here spitting out things about one city council member when it takes 3 to pass an item?

Who are you?

Have you ever heard of the words:

Defamation—also called calumny, vilification, slander, and libel

Who are you?

By the way, slander and libel laws apply differently to public officials. The law recognizes that they should be subject to public scrutiny, and allows more leeway in this regard.

I am not running for office, but Kerri is. She is the one that should be able to stand up to public scrutiny. I feel that I am doing a public service by revealing her deficiences to the readers of this forum. I am hopeful that this will prompt them to look further into her voting record, personal associations, etc. and arrive at their own conclusions, such as I have done.

[JRudi]

First, Welcome to the forum

Next, I hope you don't mind me saying, but I find it very odd that all your posts are entirely focused on Kerri, it seems you have a serious vendetta against her.

I'd like to hear the same amount of passion and well researched information about all the other candidates too, you know, to make it fair, and to not just seem like your posts are always and only about an all out attack on Kerri.

I find it dis-concerning that you brush off all comments about the others to the side while continuing your tirade against Kerri.... it just seems all too obvious that you really just have it out for her and are only on a mission to discredit her and get people here to dislike her .... no offense, just letting you know how I'm reading it....

My advice (2 cents) If you're really concerned about improving things on the council, you should focus your energy on investigating ALL of the current council members, all their voting records, all their characters etc to determine which ones are right and which are wrong for the future of our city. I myself have not made that decision yet as I am still doing my own investigating on all the candidates, particularly the new ones...

davburr: Please look at some of the other threads. I recently exchanged several posts with someone else about reform of fire fighter pay. I've also included a few posts on the Police Chief's salary.


I'm not a one issue person. I promise, at some point, I'll address my concerns about Jeff Starsky, and there are many. I also plan to make more of an issue about Folsom's upper management's salaries and benefits.

[ducky]

davburr: Please look at some of the other threads. I recently exchanged several posts with someone else about reform of fire fighter pay. I've also included a few posts on the Police Chief's salary.


I'm not a one issue person. I promise, at some point, I'll address my concerns about Jeff Starsky, and there are many. I also plan to make more of an issue about Folsom's upper management's salaries and benefits.

So is Starsky the only member you have issues with? Miklos is okay with you?

You never answered my other questions. What do you have against tattoos? Has that tattoo parlor on Natoma Street caused some sort of problem I don't know about? Do you only take issue with that one and the one on Sutter Street is okay?

Did Kerri outright oppose having an Aquatic Center in Folsom. Did she outright oppose having a Sports Complex?

[JRudi]

So is Starsky the only member you have issues with? Miklos is okay with you?

You never answered my other questions. What do you have against tattoos? Has that tattoo parlor on Natoma Street caused some sort of problem I don't know about? Do you only take issue with that one and the one on Sutter Street is okay?

Did Kerri outright oppose having an Aquatic Center in Folsom. Did she outright oppose having a Sports Complex?

Yes, Kerri did oppose the initial construction of the Aquatics Center, along with her good friend former Mayor Reggie Drew at the time. She also opposed the city's purchase of the Sports Complex. She opposed these not because they were expected to be a financial burden on the city or be underutilitized by the public, but rather because of her personal ties to Jack Kipp and Mr. Kipp's dislike for Ernie Sheldon. She was willing to kill what have proven to be very valuable public facilities for this community all because of a fued between a friend of hers and someone else. Is this how a responsible elected official should base their decisions on?

In response to your question about my concerns with the tattoo parlor on Natoma Street, at the time it was being proposed (about a decade ago), no others existed in town. Locating a tattoo parlor right on our main drag and at the entrance to the Historic District did not provide a good image for the city. At the time, we were (and still are) trying to attract tourists and families to the area, and with this at one of the major points of entry created a seedy appearance. We needed (and still need) to clean up that area, and this action seemed to be contrary to that goal. The city has and continues to invest millions of dollars in its Historic District, and we need to be more concerned about the types of businesses that we allow to locate in it and the areas immediately surrounding it. This was a poor decision at the time, and remains to this day a problem. As a counciil member, she should have had the foresight to judge this, regardless of her personal view of tattoos.

[ducky]

Yes, Kerri did oppose the initial construction of the Aquatics Center, along with her good friend former Mayor Reggie Drew at the time. She also opposed the city's purchase of the Sports Complex. She opposed these not because they were expected to be a financial burden on the city or be underutilitized by the public, but rather because of her personal ties to Jack Kipp and Mr. Kipp's dislike for Ernie Sheldon. She was willing to kill what have proven to be very valuable public facilities for this community all because of a fued between a friend of hers and someone else. Is this how a responsible elected official should base their decisions on?

You and I have differing memories on this subject. I believe Reggie Drew wanted to put the aquatic center somewhere else in Folsom, somewhere in one of the newer neighborhoods and I believe Kerri wanted a different location and was worried about costs.

In response to your question about my concerns with the tattoo parlor on Natoma Street, at the time it was being proposed (about a decade ago), no others existed in town. Locating a tattoo parlor right on our main drag and at the entrance to the Historic District did not provide a good image for the city. At the time, we were (and still are) trying to attract tourists and families to the area, and with this at one of the major points of entry created a seedy appearance. We needed (and still need) to clean up that area, and this action seemed to be contrary to that goal. The city has and continues to invest millions of dollars in its Historic District, and we need to be more concerned about the types of businesses that we allow to locate in it and the areas immediately surrounding it. This was a poor decision at the time, and remains to this day a problem. As a counciil member, she should have had the foresight to judge this, regardless of her personal view of tattoos.

So you were worried about the Historic District image. And here I thought it was the proximity to the elementary school that was the problem. I live within walking distance of that business and my child went to that elementary school and he remains unscarred and untattooed. I think empty storefronts are far more destructive to that historic image. Now, I do think that the property that the tattoo parlor shares with a bar, that you haven't taken issue with and that probably receives far more police visits, does needs some sprucing up, especially the landscaping. Aside from that, I don't see anything that remains a problem to this day. In fact, there are usually some pretty cool vintage cars parked there. Where the city has invested millions of dollars is nowhere near that intersection. It's down on Sutter Street where there is currently an abundance of bars and another tattoo parlor and yet you make no mention of that image. Again, she can't be the only council member that is responsible for the current make-up of Sutter Street businesses. So why the vendetta? Is it kind of a personality thing like the Sheldon thing you mentioned?

[camay2327]

JRudi, it would make a lot more sense if you would take an item that you always blame Kerri on and do the following.

Item 1: spell it out

List the five council members and how each voted. Don't just pick on one person.

[JRudi]

So you were worried about the Historic District image. And here I thought it was the proximity to the elementary school that was the problem. I live within walking distance of that business and my child went to that elementary school and he remains unscarred and untattooed. I think empty storefronts are far more destructive to that historic image. Now, I do think that the property that the tattoo parlor shares with a bar, that you haven't taken issue with and that probably receives far more police visits, does needs some sprucing up, especially the landscaping. Aside from that, I don't see anything that remains a problem to this day. In fact, there are usually some pretty cool vintage cars parked there. Where the city has invested millions of dollars is nowhere near that intersection. It's down on Sutter Street where there is currently an abundance of bars and another tattoo parlor and yet you make no mention of that image. Again, she can't be the only council member that is responsible for the current make-up of Sutter Street businesses. So why the vendetta? Is it kind of a personality thing like the Sheldon thing you mentioned?

ducky: If you don't have a problem with tattoo parlors being located in your home town, then I'm afraid I'm not going to convince you that her support of that business was in poor judgment. I did mention concern with the other business along that same stretch, and the city should try to clean up the entire are. The proximity to the elementary school is another concern about approving such a business in that location.

However, your challenge of my concerns about Kerri seems to be focusing on this one issue, and ignoring the others. Her voting record leaves much to be desired, especially if you are concerned about protecting family values as I am. Being the lone vote of opposition to an amendment of the city's adult business ordinance should send up a lot of red flags about her moral standards, or lack of them.

Again, I am one who holds my elected officials to high standards, and Kerri just doesn't pass the test. She's just not right for this community. However, she would probably be perfectly fine for Las Vegas.