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[stacycam]

I think Sutter Street is booooorrrrring. We only go there for Chicago Fire, and for my hairdresser. Oh, Snook's is pretty good, too. I think Hacienda is horrendous, except for Margarita's. My Brother Vinny's - ick. I'd like to see them completely revamp Sutter Street. Get rid of the crummy restaurants, and put something other than antique shops. I think one of the reasons Old Sac is better is that there is more of a variety. I also think Sutter Street does look a little run-down instead of rustic.

I am not opposed to Starbuck's like you all, but I agree that it would be nice to avoid the chains and keep it more unique. Black Rooster is fine for me.

Hopefully when the steak house on the other end opens, it will be better. I would love for that to be a better destination, because it's wonderful to walk and look at the lake, and ejoy the bridges and bike path.

[vjensen]

SUTTER STREET should be the draw!

It isn't one shop that does it, but the collection of them.

What has kept tourists away, IMO:

* Crappy 'curb appeal' - it just doesn't look well maintained
* Accessability - traffic circulation and parking can be a problem
* An unfriendly atmosphere in some of the shops - you just don't get 'warm and fuzzies' from most merchants. Notable exceptions are the Wine Gallery, Ms. Teaz, and Snook's.
* Lack of a theme and marketing message - what's it about?

I can't imagine someone saying, "Let's head to Old Folsom today. I hear they've got a Starbucks!"

I CAN imagine someone saying, "Let's head to Old Folsom today. I'm sick of all of the chains at the malls, I want something unique"

All of these issues have been reviewed by consultants and community groups and you will be happy to know that more meetings are scheduled. The process benefits from participation by anyone with interest and a vision.

Quote from the Revitalization website: http://www.historicf...revitalization/
"Our phase 2 recommendations are nearly completed. We’re expecting to bring these back to our stakeholders in early 2007. The Phase 2 deliverables are conceptual design recommendations only. If these recommendations are approved by the City Council, the next phase, Detailed Design would begin. In the meantime, we’re meeting regularly with as many stakeholder groups as we can to keep everyone informed. If you would like to know more, feel free to contact Jeff Ferreira-Pro (contact info below)."

Items to be reviewed at future Stakeholder meeting(s) with status updates and community input on:
Parking management plan
Streetscape improvements
Tenant mix improvements
Circulation improvements
Safety and Security improvements

Jeff's contact info:
Jeff Ferreira-Pro
Cell 916/792-9438
ferreirapro@earthlink.net

Jeff also has some great visuals about what has been conceptualized so far for the Historict District--which includes Sutter Street and beyond. In years to come, this section of our city could become a world-class attraction--bringing visitors from more than 150 miles! We already have a surprising number of folks from Europe and Asia visiting the Living History Village, Railroad Museum and History Museum. School tours have also made a difference in the number and range of visitors.

In a very short time you will see some significant upgrades--parking, tenant mix, marketing and streetscape improvements.

The consultants have already delivered some excellent input. Revitalization and the resulting customer base to Historic Folsom will ultimately be determined by city leaders with feedback from consultants and the community. Your voice can make a difference!

[Dave Burrell]

I think Sutter Street is booooorrrrring. We only go there for Chicago Fire, and for my hairdresser. Oh, Snook's is pretty good, too. I think Hacienda is horrendous, except for Margarita's. My Brother Vinny's - ick. I'd like to see them completely revamp Sutter Street. Get rid of the crummy restaurants, and put something other than antique shops. I think one of the reasons Old Sac is better is that there is more of a variety. I also think Sutter Street does look a little run-down instead of rustic.

I am not opposed to Starbuck's like you all, but I agree that it would be nice to avoid the chains and keep it more unique. Black Rooster is fine for me.

Hopefully when the steak house on the other end opens, it will be better. I would love for that to be a better destination, because it's wonderful to walk and look at the lake, and ejoy the bridges and bike path.

What's in old town Sac that you like a lot? Thats something to definately consider - what is that area doing right that Folsom should consider implementing in our old town?

I think old town Sac is a great place with lots to do (especially the 2 very nice museums there) and Sutter Street can't compare because its so much smaller by comparison.

Steak House?! where? that sounds great!

[mylo]

Steak House?! where? that sounds great!

On the east end of Sutter St. The Corner of Bridge & Sutter will be a very large building (3 stories on the river side) with (hopefully) a fine dining steakhouse, offices, and 17(?) parking spaces underneath.

[DalOwnerX3]

How about a live theater (one where the performers keep all their clothes on)? One can go to Sutter street for dinner before the show.

[mylo]

How about a live theater (one where the performers keep all their clothes on)? One can go to Sutter street for dinner before the show.

What does the new theatre place down there do? I've yet to be in it.

I'd love to see vaudeville make a return to Sutter. That would be great fun!

[DalOwnerX3]

What does the new theatre place down there do? I've yet to be in it.

I'd love to see vaudeville make a return to Sutter. That would be great fun!

There's a new theater in Old Folsom?

[mylo]

I dunno exactly what it is. Anyone been there yet?

[tgianco]

I dunno exactly what it is. Anyone been there yet?

I had never seen or heard of it until I was down there last week. It's called Stage Nine.

The threatre, although small, sounds like what everyone here wants. They had matinee and evening shows on the weekend.

[mylo]

Whoa, what is folsomlife.com? Never seen that site, but they talk about Stage Nine's holiday show:

http://www.folsomlif..._e1_holiday.txt

FTA:
The program lasts a little over an hour. Stage Nine doubles as theater and a Disney franchise shop, and is located at 717 Sutter Street in Old Folsom. Shows are Saturday at 2 and 4 p.m., Sunday at 1:30 p.m., through Dec. 23. Tickets are $15 for adults, $10 for children and seniors, and can be ordered in advance at 353-1001 or purchased at the door. “Tell Me on a Sunday” continues at 8 p.m. on Friday and Saturday and 3:30 p.m. on Sunday.

[mylo]

Ah ha! Found what appears to be their website:

http://www.backlotth...inetheatre.html

[Sonny]

Any plans to build a large parking structure by light rail? Then maybe more stuff can be added along Sutter Street. I know that whenever I go to the area or Old town Sac it's for something in particular then we walk around and spend time.

[mylo]

Any plans to build a large parking structure by light rail? Then maybe more stuff can be added along Sutter Street. I know that whenever I go to the area or Old town Sac it's for something in particular then we walk around and spend time.

Construction is imminent on the 315 +/- parking garage right next ot Light Rail in the Railroad Block:


http://www.folsom.ca...opment/rail.asp

It is expected to be completed by Spring of 2008

Immediately following, the construction of 3 mixed-use sites containing no more than 116,700sf is supposed to begin.

[newsblaze]

Story on commencement of the parking structure construction 16th january, plus parking space changes.

http://www.tomatopag...showtopic=11328

[Redone]

On the east end of Sutter St. The Corner of Bridge & Sutter will be a very large building (3 stories on the river side) with (hopefully) a fine dining steakhouse, offices, and 17(?) parking spaces underneath.

I think you mean Sutter and SCOTT northeast corner