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[October15]

Hey...anybody heard anything on that abandoned firestation on Blue Ravine and Sibley? I'm wondering what that property could be used for? It's really an odd piece of real estate....

[camay2327]

If you want to read a long story, start here. I started asking the city about this back on 7 March 2003. The last update I received was on 22 Feb 2007.

Read away... This may be more than you wanted to know...

Cal

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To whom it may concern… Here is some history on this subject.
Email messages back and forth from me.. Some of this has been
Edited by me.

7 March 2003
Fm: Cal May
To: Christa Schmidt
Subj: Fire Station at Blue Ravine & Prairie City Road

The people in the Prairie Oaks area have a question
about the Fire Station at Blue Ravine & Prairie City
Road.

Quote:

Now that the old firehouse is no longer occupied, has
anybody heard what they are going to do with it? It
would probably make a pretty cool clubhouse type of
place for meetings, stuff like that. I for one have
noticed it has been overrun by weeds - which is
unfortunate, as whoever occupies this building next
will likely have to rip out the old grass and start
over.

Unquote:

I think it was closed because of a mold problem or was
it some other reason.

Whatever it was I would like to know so I can put it
on our board. Also at a minimum it seems like the city
could at least keep the lawn trim and looking good.

I need an answer.

Thanks.

Cal May

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Subject: RE: Fire Station at Blue Ravine & Prairie City Road
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003
From: "Christa Schmidt"
To: "CAL MAY"

Mr. May,

I have received your message regarding the Fire Station at Blue Ravine
and Prairie City Road. I will convey your inquiry to the appropriate
personnel, and a response will be forthcoming.

Thank you,
Christa Schmidt
Interim City Clerk

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From: "Andy Morin"
To: "CAL MAY"
Subject: Re: Fire Station at Blue Ravine & Prairie City Road
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 04:54:05 -0800

Cal,

I'm not sure if you have received a response from any other council
Members but I am happy to respond. That "asset" is in the Fire Dept. money
pool. I believe it is their intent to sell it to help pay for other station
construction, equipment or modernization. With that said, I believe
all of us on the Council would be receptive to any ideas or proposals. I'll
try and get a few more specifics related to zoning and building condition.
Certainly in the interim we can ensure we avoid having the existing
Property degrade to blight.

Thanks for your involvement in Folsom!

Andy

Andy Morin
Folsom City Council

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Subject: Fire Station @ Blue Ravine & Prairie City Road
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003
From: "Eric Dutton"
To: camay

Per your email to Joe Luchi, I would be glad to call and fill you in
the station status if you would provide me a number or call me at
355-7250.

Eric Dutton, Fire Chief
City of Folsom

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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006
From: "CAL MAY"
Subject: Fwd: RE: Fire Station at Blue Ravine & Prairie City Road
To: "Elaine Andersen" "Martha Lofgren"
CC: "Christa Schmidt" "Kerri Howell" "Eric King" "Steve Miklos" "Andy Morin" "Jeff Starsky"

To Whom it may concern:

I am sending messages that I sent quite some time ago.
What is happening with the Fire Station at Blue Ravine
& Prairie City Road?

This has been hanging for quite some time. What is
going on?

Cal May

(NOTE) I sent all the messages that I had sent above in this message…

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From: "Kerri M. Howell"
To: "CAL MAY"
CC: "Martha Clark Lofgren"
Subject: Re: Fire Station at Blue Ravine & Prairie City Road
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006

Hi Cal,

I will see if I can find out why nobody has called you back. Yes,
there was a mold issue with the building - not the hazardous kind. So, the City
will not be using it for anything and it would more than likely be sold.

I will check to ensure that the grounds are being kept up in the
meantime.

Kerri

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Subject: Old Fire Station Property at PCR and Blue Ravine
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006
From: "Joe Luchi"
To: "CAL MAY"


Hi Cal:

Your message about the subject abandoned fire station was forwarded to me for a rely. Thank you for your interest.

FYI, the Fire Chief and I have met with an appraiser regarding updating an appraisal done on the property back in 1999. Before that process starts though, Eric and I will be meeting with planning staff regarding permitted uses of the existing building per the City zoning code. The appraiser will probably complete the appraisal in the next 3-4 months. After that process is completed, I plan to meet with the neighborhoods adjacent to the Fire Station for feedback on alternative uses for the property.

I will contact Administrative Services regarding lawn care of the property.

Let me know if you have any other questions.

Thanks.

Joe Luchi

City of Folsom
Director of Intergovernmental Affairs and Economic Development

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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007
From: "CAL MAY
Subject: Old Fire Station at Blue Ravine & Prairie City Road
To: 348711@folsom.ca.us, jluchi@folsom.ca.us
CC: "Elaine Andersen" <eandersen@folsom.ca.us>

Eric and Joe,

I have sent several email messages and have received
many replies since 7 March 2003 about the old fire
station at 1301 Blue Ravine Road (intersection of Blue
Ravine and Prairie City Road.

I am attaching all previous emails for information.

I would like to know the status of the building, is it
going to be sold? What is going to be located there?
Anything else. It has been vacant for a long time.

What is going on?

Thanks.

Cal May

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Subject: RE: Old Fire Station at Blue Ravine & Prairie City Road
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007
From: "Elaine Andersen"
To: "CAL MAY"

Thanks, Cal. I'll check into this and make sure you get an update.
From: "Kerri M. Howell"
To: "CAL MAY"
Subject: Re: Old Fire Station at Blue Ravine & Prairie City Road
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007

Hey Cal,

I have not heard anything about this lately - but, as I told you about
a year ago, the property will likely be sold, at some point. As the FD
moves forward with the new station in Empire Ranch, I suspect this will move
forward so that any money generated from the sale of that property
would be used to help fund the new station. I may see Eric at the library
opening - and will ask him and Kerry Miller what the story is. I don't know what the underlying zoning is - but I would not think it would be any more
intensive than the parcel across the street.

Kerri

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Subject: RE: Old Fire Station at Blue Ravine & Prairie City Road
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007
From: "Eric Dutton"
To: "CAL MAY" "Joe Luchi"
CC: "Elaine Andersen"

Mr. May, we took the matter of this facility some months ago for
direction on its sale or reuse. We were task with getting an appraisal
on the property both with and without the structure. We have estimates
to demolish the building, if so desired, and are about 6 - 8 weeks out
on the appraisals at which time we will go back to City Council with
our findings and some recommended courses of action. Due to the size of
the parcel there are limitations on what it can be used for and everything
right now points towards some short of small business / professional
use.

Eric W. Dutton
Fire Chief
984-2280

[camay2327]

Here is the old link, hope it works...


http://www.tomatopag...hl=Fire Station

[October15]

Here is the old link, hope it works...
http://www.tomatopag...hl=Fire Station

Thanks...that was helpful. I thought your "Events" sign idea was good. It really is a postage stamp sized lot. The mold issue makes it just a piece of land with no building, right? It seems like it would have to be razed. It could be a visual park/green space, I guess...I was just curious because I couldn't picture what business would want to purchase a piece that small.

[camay2327]

Thanks...that was helpful. I thought your "Events" sign idea was good. It really is a postage stamp sized lot. The mold issue makes it just a piece of land with no building, right? It seems like it would have to be razed. It could be a visual park/green space, I guess...I was just curious because I couldn't picture what business would want to purchase a piece that small.

Yes, and the access in and out on that corner would be bad for any business...

[camay2327]

Upcoming Folsom City Council Meeting on 26 June 2007 at 6:30 PM

Check the myfolsom.com article...

http://www.tomatopag...showtopic=13282






7. Consent Calendar:

c. Resolution No. 8087 - A Resolution Authorizing City Employees/Officials to Participate in the Competitive Bidding Process to Purchase the Deactivated Fire Station Property at 1301 Prairie City Road

[Duke]

Perfect.

We need more micro malls; similar to the Glenn Drive/Sibley Street fiasco.

Or, another condo-plex might be nice...

[mylo]

We need more micro malls; similar to the Glenn Drive/Sibley Street fiasco.

Is that a fiasco? Is anything going in there?

[Duke]

Is that a fiasco? Is anything going in there?

Simply my learned prediction.

Poor retail location-- poorly planned entry/exit-- insufficient customer and employee parking.

You'll see some small bizzes open and fold there...think manicure shop.

[john]

How about the new one over by the old auto mall, NO tenants. ditto over by Home Depot. It amazes me how developers will just build things without tenants. I suppose that's fodder for another thread...

[Duke]

How about the new one over by the old auto mall, NO tenants. ditto over by Home Depot. It amazes me how developers will just build things without tenants. I suppose that's fodder for another thread...

Indeed it is, sir.

These poorly planned (...and local gov't approved) mini and micro malls add to blight. And, they're more costly to local governments than previously thought.

The poorly planned mall at Natomas Marketplace/US-80 is a textbook example. Look at the additional $$$ now being devoted to correct its traffic planning boondoggle. It's expected to relieve only about 25% (--at best) of its current congestion. The mall is fairly new. There's retail rental space available.

If one meanders down into Rancho Cordova, numerous tilt-up's are readily available to rent.

We're turning into Elk Grove...

[cOuRtNeY]

Hey...anybody heard anything on that abandoned firestation on Blue Ravine and Sibley? I'm wondering what that property could be used for? It's really an odd piece of real estate....

i heard it has mold in it and it was a safty hazard..u could reaserch and find out and get it cleaned. it would make a nice coffe shop or something of that sort

[Dave Burrell]

How about the new one over by the old auto mall, NO tenants. ditto over by Home Depot. It amazes me how developers will just build things without tenants. I suppose that's fodder for another thread...

that kills me that more and more mini-malls are being built around here and so many of them are 50-80% empty... yet more and more keep getting built

pretty soon its going to be a mini-mall ghost town - prime example look at whats happened to all the stores by walmart