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[caligirlz]

I was a little shocked when I read this opinion piece. I'm not sure if I agree that California if really affordable again, perhaps some parts of California are.

Do you think this is a good sign?

The latest evidence comes from major van lines. Moving van activity is seen by some experts as a good indication of migration for executive-level employees. These pricier relocations are often paid for by the moving workers' employer.

Allied, United and Atlas -- moved more folks to California than out of the state for the second consecutive year. It's also the third increase out of the last four. Plus, the 30,669 households that moved to California last year by these three companies was a 5.9 percent jump over the previous year -- and resulted in the highest number of new neighbors via major van line since 2008.

"People are realizing that living in California is finally affordable and they're jumping on that bandwagon," says Linda Oakley, vice president of Atlas Transfer and Storage. "We've had customers that we've moved out of state that have called us back to say, 'I want to come home.'"
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[rpo]

Home prices in many areas of the state (especially the valley) are down 60% or more. Since that is the majority of the average person's living expense, it makes a huge difference.

Since companies are moving workers back to California, it is a great sign that the recovery is gaining steam.

[nomad]

Home prices in many areas of the state (especially the valley) are down 60% or more. Since that is the majority of the average person's living expense, it makes a huge difference.

Since companies are moving workers back to California, it is a great sign that the recovery is gaining steam.

Can you give some examples of companies moving workers back to Ca?

[rpo]

Can you give some examples of companies moving workers back to Ca?

It was in the OP.

[caligirlz]

It was in the OP.

Apparently you didn't read or you just skimmed the article because it doesn't list companies. It only talks about moving company stats.

[nomad]

It was in the OP.

No it wasn't. Nothing about biz moving here, only that it's somehow affordable once again. Please show me.

[rpo]

Apparently you didn't read or you just skimmed the article because it doesn't list companies. It only talks about moving company stats.

Right at the beginning of your OP:

Moving van activity is seen by some experts as a good indication of migration for executive-level employees. These pricier relocations are often paid for by the moving workers' employer.

Since that is considered a good indicator of migration of executive-level employees (as per the moving van lines), that means companies are increasingly moving executives to California, which is a good thing for our state.

[The Average Joe]

Who considers moving van use a good indicator of executive level jobs, raise your hands...

Despite a massive stack of articles stating how unfriendly Ca is to business with taxes and regulatory burdens.
AND numerous articles detailing the net exodus of Californians to other states. But hey, let's say moving vans are used by executives, which therefore means more executive jobs...Um, ok.

[rpo]

Who considers moving van use a good indicator of executive level jobs, raise your hands...

It is not an indicator of an increase or decrease in executive level jobs overall as they are just being moved from state to state. The moving van companies do consider it a great indicator of where the employees are being moved, and they are the ones being paid by corporations to move their executives. From their perspective, it is a great indicator!

Despite a massive stack of articles stating how unfriendly Ca is to business with taxes and regulatory burdens.
AND numerous articles detailing the net exodus of Californians to other states. But hey, let's say moving vans are used by executives, which therefore means more executive jobs...Um, ok.

Obviously, it is not a thorough indicator of all job related activity, but any positive statistics are still positive for California. Let's get along for a moment and be happy for another positive indicator for California.