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[OctoberLily]

Has anyone else noticed any problems with the location of the stop sign on McAdoo and Riley Street?

My son and I were almost hit by a car (driver on his cell phone) on that intersection last week. The guy looked back after he came to a screeching halt about 10 feet from my car as if he didn't notice the stop sign was there.

I've noticed other stop signs are usually up close to the actual stop "line" on the road; however, this one is a little further in front and surrounded by 2 grown trees.

I'm wondering if this is a problem where drivers do not see the stop sign and just go through the stop.

I'm also concerned because we weren't the only ones that I've notice that almost got hit. I witnessed a 7 or 8 year old boy on a bike crossing that intersection that was almost hit by a car who did not stop at the stop sign heading west on Riley.

I would love to hear from other neighbors and maybe we could get the city to fix this problem before someone gets hit.

[NRB]

I live right off McAdoo and have never had a problem at that stop sign. The guy probably just wasn't paying attention. But now that you have mentioned it, I'll pay more attention and see if I notice anything different! Thanks for bringing it up!

[camay2327]

Don't wait until someone get hurt or killed.

Call Mark Racovan at 355-7272.

Think that is the correct number, and let him know to get it checked out.

e-mail: pwdept@folsom.ca.us


Cal

[Not a Folsom Snob]

I've seen that stop sign ran a lot. It seems that most people are traveling way to fast and not paying attention! I'd be very curious as to the reason why they are running the stop signs.

[camay2327]

I sent Mark Racovan an e-mail about this sign. We will see what he says.

Cal

[camay2327]

I drove up Riley past the stop sign at Cruickshank and stopped at McAdoo. We drove past it, turned around and drove back to McAdoo and back to Duncan Way.

The stop at McAdoo seems to be just fine. STOP AHEAD is marked on the road from both directions and the stop signs are clearly visible.

If someone runs that stop sign they should be given a ticket!!
It is clearly marked in both directions.

Anyway, I forwarded all this information to Mark Rackovan and he sent me the
following.

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--- Mark Rackovan wrote:

Mr. May:

Thank you for your message regarding the
intersection of Riley at McAdoo. We will
investigate the placement and visibility of the
existing stop signs as soon as possible and make
adjustments if necessary. You may also be
interested to know that we are in the process of
designing traffic signals for the intersections of
McAdoo, Cruickshank, and Russi at Riley Street. It
is our goal to have these signals under construction
next year to replace the existing stop signs. If
you have any more questions, please let me know.

Sincerely,
Mark A. Rackovan, P.E.
Senior Civil Engineer/Traffic
City of Folsom
Public Works Department
(916) 355-7379


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If there are further questions please call Mark Rackovan at 355-7379

Cal

[OctoberLily]

Wow, Thanks Camay for the update.

I'm really glad to know that they are going to put a signal there. It will be a little inconvenient but it is better than a serious accident with families or children involved.

There are just soo many kids on bikes by themselves that it is better to be safe than sorry.

Thanks for taking the time to do this!! I appreciate it.

[NRB]

Just to clarify...Cruickshank doesn't intersect McAdoo so I am assuming he meant the stop light is going in at Riley and Cruickshank with a second one at Riley and Russi? That's only a block apart!!!! And since there isn't even a stop sign on Riley at Russi, currently, it is going to make for more problems in my opinion and doesn't even address the stop sign that Octoberlily first mentioned! Although, I agree with Camay that the stop sign is clearly marked and the guy/gal who ran it should have received a ticket! I still can't believe that they are going to put two stop lights on Riley between McAdoo and Blue Ravine. It's going to be a a much slower drive to Central Folsom folks!

[camay2327]

Mark did say traffic signals for the intersections of
McAdoo, Cruickshank, and Russi at Riley Street. They
all intersect Riley.

As far as timing, I would hope that they will set the lights so
you can drive through them all without stopping. One way
in the morning and the other way in the evening.

NOTE: I will be down for awhile as I just got my new computer and
have to set it up. Will be back when I can.

Cal

[OctoberLily]

Yeah, I agree that it will be a much slower drive to Central Folsom but I'm not opposed to it because I think that the benefits outweigh the inconvenience.

It's a fact that people drive way to fast down that hill and there are many children that cross those intersections after school. I'd rather see them safe than me be able to save a minute or two from my drive to the business area.

It may stop the speeding and reckless drivers.

As for the guy that ran the McAdoo and Riley 4 way stop, I tried to get his license but he was driving too fast and I had my teenage son in the car. (I didn't want to be a bad example. Plus, I'm sure he will get caught one of these days.)

[NRB]

I am all for safety but 3 traffic lights all within a block from eachother? I think that is overkill. The City wont even give us a crosswalk on McAdoo so our kids can cross the street safely on their way to the park, school or bus stop but they're willing to spend thousands on not 1 but 3 stop lights on Riley?!?!?! I honestly feel that the one stoplight at Cruickshank would be enough maybe partnered with a little more policing in our area. When's the last time you saw a police car in Willow Springs? In the meantime, crossing McAdoo is still a major concern for our children. How about a stop sign and a crosswalk at McAdoo and Carter?

[camay2327]

I think that three stop signs that close together is not good either.

Some city council members real these notes. I am not sure if Mark does or not.

Everyone needs to get involved and e-mail and/or call people that work for
the city of Folsom if a problem comes up.

I like to get involved when something comes up that I believe in or if something
needs to be fixed.


Contact Mark Rackovan at 916-355-7379


Mark A. Rackovan, P.E.
Senior Civil Engineer/Traffic
City of Folsom
Public Works Department
(916) 355-7379


CAL

[cybertrano]

QUOTE (camay2327 @ Sep 10 2003, 11:50 AM)

I think that three stop signs that close together is not good either. Some city council members real these notes. I am not sure if Mark does or not. Everyone needs to get involved and e-mail and/or call people that work for the city of Folsom if a problem comes up. I like to get involved when something comes up that I believe in or if something needs to be fixed. Contact Mark Rackovan at 916-355-7379 Mark A. Rackovan, P.E. Senior Civil Engineer/Traffic City of Folsom Public Works Department (916) 355-7379 CAL

great information thanx.

[OctoberLily]

Maybe instead of 3 stop lights, they could have a 3 way stop on one and a stop light on another.

I DEFINITELY think they need a stop light at McAdoo and Riley. It's close to a park, kids cross this 3 way stop all the time after school and drivers are just blowing right through those stop signs.

I agree that they need cross walks on McAdoo. I always stop completely when I see anyone adult or child waiting to cross the street. That is also a very dangerous street. People do not go the 35 mph speed limit. I've actually had people illegally pass me on a solid line because I was going to slow (35mph) and they needed to save 3 seconds from their time.

Maybe they should also consider lowering the speed limit on McAdoo. There are a lot of pedestrians and children crossing those streets.

As for seeing Folsom PD around that area, I haven't seen any. I telephoned Folsom PD about my incident and the detective I spoke with said he would pass on my information to "Patrol". I don't know if anything will come from that. Sometime ago, I saw Folsom PD hiding in the Livermore Parking area but I don't know if they were just taking a lunch or actually "patrolling".

[NRB]

Hey OctoberLily, This is totally off topic but I had to let you know that I
love your "avatar". I was wondering if you knew that I actually took that picture of the two Canada Geese right here in Willow Springs at Willow Springs Lake (the pond on the end of my street)? I uploaded it to myfolsom.com and used it as my avatar when I first became a member! Anyway, it's nice to see it in use again and seems very appropriate since you are also a resident of Willow Springs!

Back on topic, I think one stop sign and one stop light would be a much better alternative.